KDevelop Mega Poll (WAS: Qt Designer plugin)

Mark Knecht markknecht at gmail.com
Wed Oct 19 22:11:42 BST 2011


On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Milian Wolff <mail at milianw.de> wrote:
> On Tuesday 18 October 2011 10:28:22 Mark Knecht wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:45 AM, David Narvaez
>>
>> <david.narvaez at computer.org> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Milian Wolff <mail at milianw.de> wrote:
>> >> I'm with Andreas, this would be very interesting in setting priorities.
>> >>
>> >> Generally - at least for me - it's not that I have nothing to do in
>> >> KDevelop - quite the contrary. It's just the question if what I think is
>> >> important is actually important to others...
>> >
>> > Exactly, I really meant doing a poll to see what are the most common
>> > pain points and see which of them are related to wish requests in the
>> > bug tracking system, etc. There's obviously no need to fill yet
>> > another work queue.
>>
>> Is there any interest in those aspiring to program and the
>> interests/problems we have vs what I suspect are mostly a group of
>> folks that are already very accomplished programmers?
>>
>> I joined this list about a year ago. My interests tend to be very much
>> orthogonal to most of what gets done with the tools today and I have
>> made very little progress to date, mostly because it (programming and
>> to a great extent the tools) isn't easy. :-)
>
> Sure, while this would be a good thing™ it's really complicated to do right.
> And as usual in the FOSS world one tends to fix his own itches. And since we
> are all already "accomplished programmers" we know that there is still lots of
> room for improvement.
>
> Personally, I am a complete self-taught programmer. Tutorials and a plain text
> editor where pretty much all I had back then, and I think KDevelop's semantic
> analysis etc. pp. already go much in the direction of helping you finding your
> way around existing code (which btw. teaches you a lot, I tell you).
>
> Anyhow, I do see that KDevelop really could use some usability work in some
> places. Suggestions welcome, as always. But don't just say "this sucks", we'll
> have to know what would be better for a newcomer.
>
> Bye
> --
> Milian Wolff

Hi Milian,
   You can be assured that I would _never_ say 'this sucks' about the
program. It's neither true about the program nor fair to the
programmers!

   The most I'd say (if I was to say anything at all) would be about
how things could be made easier for both new programmers like me as
well as people programming in not so standard languages or hardware
models. That might not even mean a change for the program itself but
rather some sort of infrastructure around the program.

   As an example, my interest is learning how to program for the
Nvidia CUDA architecture. I've looked at it a bit over the last year,
and bought a book with examples that work if I do it all by hand in a
bunch of text files, but when I tried to figure out how to doi it in
any of the easily available IDE's available on Gentoo I ran into so
many questions I didn't know where to go and gave up. (And didn't
really want to bother people here about that if they weren't
interested.)

   Anyway, that's the sort of thing I was thinking about when I popped
up with my first question.

Cheers,
Mark




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