Don't hurry to upgrade was Re: unix style end of lines
Dorin Lazar
lazar at deuromedia.ro
Tue Jan 20 11:45:35 GMT 2004
First, an answer for the impacient. There is an utility called dos2unix that
will do the trick. Unfortunately there is nothing embedded in the kdevelop2
IDE. I wouldn't know how can it be done.
On Tuesday 20 January 2004 13:03, Alejandro Exojo wrote:
> Maybe it's a good moment for upgrading ;-).
I am a constant user of KDevelop, and I would reccomend against upgrading
for the time being. As wonderful as KDevelop 3 is, it still has a lot of
problems, and even if those problems are not there, it still takes some time
to adjust to the new style. Sometimes it's too costy for old projects to
change their initial working environment. Add to that the autotools hell and
this will be unbearable, and soon you would start hoping for something
better. And then you start writing your own makefiles, and you use mcedit for
your project.
Really, the autotools hell should somehow be evaded. I work on some serious
projects and I am now held hostage to a much older distribution because there
is really no way to keep my old projects and my new projects on the same
machine. I talk to you as a user. Perhaps there are among you a lot of people
that understood the autotools chain. I don't doubt that there is a sense to
the whole thing. I just find it inacceptable to upgrade from version 2.xx to
2.yy and find a whole set of incompatibilities. And I would've expected from
an IDE to isolate me, the user, from all these problems.
From a developer's point of view there is no sense to test and re-test over
and over again the same settings. sizeof(long) will be 4 on my machine and I
don't expect to change that too soon. I wish I could remove that test from
configure (but that is impossible, not without lots of hacks). But why
configure anyway? Why configure and reconfigure? The local development system
should know already where is he running, what is everything I need for the
project.
Anyway, perhaps the discussion I am trying to open has been closed a long
time ago between the actual developers. Anyway, the advice to upgrade is not
an option, and will not be for a long long time from now on. Perhaps new
kdevelop users will find themselves much happier in the kdevelop 3 system. I
tried it and I am still puzzled by the errors it issues. And I don't know if
it's misuse or a kdevelop issue. So I am silent until I have the time to
investigate. Anyway, from the user's perspective, kdevelop 3 is different (it
should be different, right?) But I don't know if it's better. I really didn't
get any results with it. Yet.
Yours (and perhaps bitching too much),
Dorin
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