I found another little error in the templates: in initMenuBar you call e.g. myMenu->insertItem(BarIcon ("fileopen"), ...etc); but it should be myMenu->inserItem(SmallIcon ("fileopen"),....etc). Maybe one could change that, because it looks pretty weird with Toolbar icons in the menus (kind of oversized...uh?) -- CyA Sascha Günther (s.guenther at lives.de)