Planning to release a beta version of KDevelop for OS X during 5.1

[Aleix Pol]

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Kevin Funk <kfunk at kde.org> wrote:
> On Wednesday, 26 October 2016 17:31:40 CEST René J.V. Bertin wrote:
>> On Wednesday October 26 2016 16:42:42 Kevin Funk wrote:
>> >I'd like to package just the IDE, as on Windows, no full Qt/KF5 SDK. That's
>> >just out of scope for us at this point.
>> >
>> >@René: Do you see any blockers wrt KDevelop for OS X?
>>
>> Blockers, no. KDevelop5 has come a long way from the days when I first got
>> it to build and was quite underwhelmed with its behaviour compared to
>> KDevelop 4.7.3 .
>
> Great!
>
>> There's one thing I can think of that doesn't work
>> properly for me (but didn't either in 4.7): auto-refresh of directories in
>> the project manager toolview. That's probably not KDevelop's fault, though,
>> but it could be useful to trigger a refresh in reaction to certain actions
>> like "Locate current document".
>
> Okay, I'll have a look at that. Noted.
>
>> Apart from that I should note that I build KF5 in a "Unixy" fashion, with
>> shared resources in locations where they'd also be expected on Linux and
>> with a functional session DBus . That also means that KDevelop can interact
>> with other KDE (and even XDG-compliant software in general) just like it
>> can on Linux, and I do not currently have a good idea how the user
>> experience changes when you go to a standalone app bundle containing all
>> the required dependencies.
>
> Well, that's similar to the Windows situation then: It works. We're not
> relying on DBus on Windows at all, which works for us. Regarding paths, etc.:
> fixable.
>
> I'll run into that anyway, as soon as I start packing the .dmg...
>
>> Which reminds me: do you plan to include cmake and up-to-date versions of
>> git and what-have-you?
>
> That's what I tried to hint at with my "no full Qt/KF5 SDK" remark: No I don't
> actually want to include cmake or Git. That's not our job, IMO. This is where
> OS X package managers (e.g. brew, MacPorts) would help out.
>
>> One last remark: KF5 konsole doesn't support (most) Ctrl sequences on OS X
>> for me, including crucial ones like Ctrl-C. I'm not sure why as it did work
>> in Qt4 (and it also works when I use the XCB plugin, so it must have to do
>> with Qt swapping the Ctrl and Meta keys for shortcuts). I'd probably advise
>> to disable the konsole plugin because of this.
>
> That's a good point. Shortcuts under OS X are generally a big problem I think;
> we need to review the shortcuts in KDevelop and check whether they're
> accessible/sensible under OS X.

Maybe it's a good opportunity to revisit the possibility to provide
separate shortcuts scheme file for OS X. XMLGUI is ready for it, we
just need to do it. AFAIK. AFAIR.

Aleix