Will be speaking about KDevelop at LinuxCon Japan 2012
Milian Wolff
mail at milianw.de
Sat Apr 21 12:26:34 UTC 2012
On Saturday 21 April 2012 15:00:37 Alexandre Courbot wrote:
> On Apr 20, 2012 6:44 PM, "Milian Wolff" <mail at milianw.de>
>
> > > results). I'd like to demonstrate most of these live, then expect to
> > > be burnt alive at the end of the session by the Church of Emacs
> > > followers.
> >
> > Heh, I like your humor :)
>
> Humor? Where?
>
> > Hmm things that need to be mentioned... always a big issue for me as well
> > when I did a talk on KDevelop. There is simply so much!
> >
> > Imo you have a nice hook, i.e. kernel development - try to put in all the
> > little things that make you productive when using KDevelop. QuickOpen,
> > context browsing, semantic highlighting, ... The list should contain
> > things you personally use such that you can easily talk about them, imo.
>
> Yes, these ones are core KDevelop features, but they scale particularly
> well in the case of the kernel so I will definitely cover them first.
>
> > Other tools that come to my mind would be snippets that are quite nifty in
> > some situations (also known from lots of other editors). And of course the
> > Kate VI-Mode for all the VIM users in the crowd :)
>
> Kate VI-mode is indeed a must. Without it I would not be using KDevelop
> myself. I think it would also be interesting to highlight the fact that
> KDevelop is independent of the editor - for instance, someone recently
> wrote a Qt port of Vim - if another person had the good idea to make a
> KPart out of it, you could have something quite interesting too.
>
> > Then, if you have time, I would appreciate it if you could take the time
> > to quickly explain the attending developers that it's relatively easy to
> > hack KDevelop. It's mostly modular plugins after all... Tell them that we
> > are open to any contributions (even if I slack quite much and review
> > requests always need some time). You could also stress that we are *not*
> > opposed to a designated C language plugin (opposed to a C++ one with
> > C99/C11 extensions) - but that this would need someone to work on it.
>
> Yes, attracting potential developers is one of the main points of this
> talk. I was myself surprised by how modular and accessible KDevelop is.
> There is a great potential for developers that is not exploited because
> most people mistakenly see KDevelop as a sort of an attempt to mimic Visual
> Studio. Also people need to be more aware of the fact that it is perfectly
> usable.
Too all of the above: neat!
> > PS: If you need any help in preparation or such, just hit us up!
>
> I'd so appreciate if some of the core KDev developers would be kind enough
> to review and give feedback & suggestions on early versions of the slides
> (off list, of course). If some of you don't mind doing so, please let me
> know!
Yeah, just sent them to me, I'll gladly do some reviewing.
> Also there are a couple of features I'd like to implement to set the
> KDevelop solution out of the ctags/cscope flock. One of them in particular
> is the ability to track the possible values of function pointers in the
> DUChain and to give a list of potential candidates in the function popup
> window (much like what is done for overridden virtual functions in C++).
> This is heavily used in the kernel, is very confusing for beginners, and
> would just be a killer feature to show. I will open a separate thread for
> this, any kind of help/guidance that would speed things up would be
> extremely welcome.
Sure, function pointers are a sore spot in our language support and I can try
to help you in that regard.
Bye
--
Milian Wolff
mail at milianw.de
http://milianw.de
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