Purpose of "buildtools" .so and .la files

Tue Jan 17 14:45:05 UTC 2006

Jens,

I withdraw my previous statement that removing files had no effect, for 
the files below I confirm that removing the files cripples the 
associated Code Completion database:

>> /usr/lib/libkdevqtimporter.so
>> /usr/lib/libkdevqtimporter.la
>> /usr/lib/libkdevkdelibsimporter.so
>> /usr/lib/libkdevkdelibsimporter.la
>> /usr/lib/libkdevcustompcsimporter.so
>> /usr/lib/libkdevcustompcsimporter.la
> These are used by the Code Completion database setup wizard.

Jeremy

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>From "Matt Rogers <mattr"@kde.org Tue Jan 17 15:41:19 2006
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Date: Tue Jan 17 15:42:03 2006
X-Original-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:43:57 -0600

On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 03:19:26PM +0200, Andras Mantia wrote:
> On Tuesday 17 January 2006 15:11, Jens Dagerbo wrote:
> > On 1/17/06, Jeremy Laine <jeremy.laine at m4x.org> wrote:
> > > Hi Jens and thanks for answering!
> > >
> > > > What you are looking at are on-demand loaded plugins.
> > >
> > > Any idea why these files are in /usr/lib as opposed to all the
> > > other plugins that live in /usr/lib/kde3 ?
> >
> > No idea. Let's make some more noise on the list, maybe someone knows.
> > ANYONE?! :)
> 
> Just a wild guess without looking at the Makefile's: maybe somebody 
> *wrongly* links agains them internally. So they are technically modules 
> (plugins), but are used as convenience libraries as well.
> 
> Or simply the Makefile's are wrong. I will look at them.
> 
> Andras

Some of those (the ones for the new kdevelop project manager roberto
introduced) are wrongly installed. I'm supposed to fix this (it's still
on my TODO) but I haven't done it yet. :S
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>From "Matt Rogers <mattr"@kde.org Tue Jan 17 15:39:30 2006
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Subject: Re: Purpose of "buildtools" .so and .la files
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Date: Tue Jan 17 15:42:18 2006
X-Original-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:42:02 -0600

On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 11:19:11AM +0100, Jeremy Laine wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am currently doing some maintenance on the Debian packages of 
> KDevelop and there are a number of shared objects and .la files whose 
> purpose is not obvious to me. I cannot find any binaries or libraries 
> that depend on the shared objects, which leaves me wondering whether 
> they need to be distributed at all (possibly in a development package?).
> 

just because they're not depended on doesn't mean they aren't plugins.
:)

> I'd really appreciate any pointers on this topic! The files are:
> 
> /usr/lib/libkdevautomakeimporter.so
> /usr/lib/libkdevautomakeimporter.la
> /usr/lib/libkdevcustomimporter.so
> /usr/lib/libkdevcustomimporter.la
> /usr/lib/libqmakeimporter.so
> /usr/lib/libqmakeimporter.la
> /usr/lib/libkdevmakebuilder.so
> /usr/lib/libkdevmakebuilder.la

the above 8 files are not in use for the KDevelop 3 series and they can
be safely removed.

> /usr/lib/libkdevqtimporter.so
> /usr/lib/libkdevqtimporter.la
> /usr/lib/libkdevkdelibsimporter.so
> /usr/lib/libkdevkdelibsimporter.la
> /usr/lib/libkdevcustompcsimporter.so
> /usr/lib/libkdevcustompcsimporter.la
> 

These are in use for the creation of C++ code completion databases and
should be kept.

Also, while you're at it, can you _PLEASE_ unbreak the debian packages
by removing kdevelop 2 (which is horribly obsolete) and renaming
everything from kdevelop3 to just kdevelop? It causes tons of issues and
I can go look up the relevant bugs numbers on bugs.kde.org if you need
to see how much.

Thanks
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Matt