[kvim-dev] RE: team interview

[Eray Ozkural]

On Friday 14 June 2002 18:12, Mickael Marchand wrote:
> > I think the TextEditor interface should have the concept of the
> > multi-document single window editor. Most editors work like that and the
> > multi-window single document or multi-document is more or less a new
> > concept with few editors implementing it.
>
> fully agreed :)
> that would help a lot with vim and probably other editors

Mickael,

I don't agree. This isn't a good idea at all. See my suggestion below.

>
> > Most people, from what I have seen, use their IDE with one editor window
> > only, switching between buffers. If you base KDevelop around this common
> > concept, it will be far easier to integrate editors and will avoid the
> > one process per edited file issue.
>
> I have an idea to do this, but I'm not sure if it will work or not. So I
> have to test first.
> That would allow us to have only one Vim process and to use Vim buffers
> directly. I'm just not sure if the kparts ktexteditor will make it work
> (using the same widget for all views for example) ;)
>

Any decent editor must be able to manage multiple views and multiple 
documents. Just because vim can't do it doesn't mean it's not the right way.

VIM can still run a single process. It opens new documents but uses a single 
window as it does. That's not a problem. The interface I think can deal with 
it in a decent way. I'll dig into the interface and see what I can do.

Loading a new vim process for each editor window is insane. It's slow, and 
kills the memory. I'll try my approach with gideon code right away. We want a 
single vim process no matter what.

An editor that does have a good notion of GUI can work differently by opening 
multiple frames, a la emacs.

> > > Also we seem to have dangling processes after kvim part terminates.
> >
> > I used to have problems like that but fixed them some times. Maybe
> > Mickael reintroduced them :-(
>
> I don't use processes like it was before, this is quite strange you have
> such a thing, I tested starting and closing vim windows really hard and I
> haven't encountered this bug before commiting the kpart on CVS. I have
> an old gideon, I need to update it, I'll test again ...
>

You don't need gideon to observe this bug. It may have been due to my changes, 
but it's unlikely.

Just compile the one in kdeextragear-1, and use konqueror to view text files. 
It leaves these processes when I hit the Back button. If you exit from vim, 
it doesn't. Seems to have a simple workaround. ;)

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