Ghost emails

[Ingo Klöcker]

On Donnerstag, 19. Mai 2022 16:12:23 CEST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Thursday, 19 May 2022 14:54:50 BST rhkramer at gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 19, 2022 08:58:46 AM gene heskett wrote:
> > > I do, I read nearly all mail from local folders on my own machine, put
> > > in
> > > those local folders by kmails filters, although some do live in the
> > > inbox. Probably 50 unclassifiable messages there, no problem with them.
> > 
> > Coming in from left field, but if you read most (all??) emails from local
> > folders, have you ever (or ever considered) getting them with pop3 instead
> > of imap?
> 
> My ISP doesn't offer IMAP so I have to use POP3. The problem there is that
> KMail is notoriously bad at handling POP mail - to the extent that it was
> actually worthwhile for me to set up a little mail server (on another
> machine, but it could have been on the same one). That used fetchmail to
> collect mail from the ISP and postfix to transfer it to dovecot, which runs
> as a local IMAP server to my workstation.
> 
> In short, do everything you can think of to avoid POP3 in KMail.
> 
> Oh, and don't hold your breath waiting for better POP handling in KMail,
> because the last I heard, none of its developers had a POP account to test
> it with. Yes, really!

I don't think that's what we have said. I think what we have said is that all 
of us use IMAP for all of our email and most of us filter on the server. 
Therefore, we do not experience problems with the daily use of POP or local 
filtering. And testing with a test POP account every once in a while just 
isn't that helpful.

> When I ran software projects, a comprehensive test environment was
> essential.

Yes, that and a dedicated QA team consisting of qualified test engineers. 
That's what we had at the company I used to work for.

> But then, we weren't all volunteers working in our spare time.

Exactly. And you cannot blame those volunteers for using the vastly more 
advanced IMAP. POP really should have died last century. The "keep mail on 
server" feature for POP has caused us so many headaches in the past because of 
misbehaving servers. It was gruesome.

> No offence meant to anyone.

No offence taken.

Regards,
Ingo
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