why is there so much "weird shit" in akonadi/kdepim?

[Ianseeks]

On Thursday, 12 December 2019 18:22:18 GMT Paul Vixie wrote:
> akonadi is junk, abandonware. we are stuck with it but it has no champion. a bad situation. switch to postgres and restart it twice every day and you will be able to use kontact. a fine trade.

moving to postgres has definitely made things a lot better for me

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> On 12 Dec 2019, 14:07, at 14:07, Mathias Homann <mathias.homann at opensuse.org> wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >
> >why is kdepim / akonadi such a high maintenance system?
> >
> >I mean seriously, sometimes it feels i spend twice as much time keeping
> >
> >akonadi happy and working than i spend actually reading email or
> >working with 
> >addressbook or calendar. And I'm subscribed to a lot of openSUSE
> >mailing 
> >lists, so that says something.
> >
> >Here's a choice selection of hoops that akonadi and/or kdepim places in
> >front 
> >of me to hop through:
> >
> >- sometimes the webdav ressource forgets its configured username,
> >password, 
> >and server url for no reason. when that happens there is NO indication
> >that it 
> >happened, other than calendar entries that I created with some other
> >tool, 
> >e.g. on my phone, do not show up in kontact. So by now I am trained to
> >check 
> >wether the nextcloud connection still works before creating a calendar
> >entry.
> >
> >- i have a "lost+found" folder in my mail, that contains unreadable
> >headers of 
> >about 300 emails from as far as two years back. the folder is
> >permanently 
> >offline, so I can't do anything about it. I also can't find that folder
> >
> >anywhere on my harddisk.
> >
> >- sometimes when i move emails from one folder to another the mails do
> >get 
> >moved on the imap server, but in kmail they stay behind in the source
> >folder 
> >and no amount of akonadictl restart and/or restarting kontact convinces
> >the 
> >system that the mails have been moved
> >
> >- several of the ressources akonadi uses fail to understand the kde
> >typical 
> >"file://" urls for folders. as a result i have a lot of folders under
> >~/.local 
> >and/or ~/.share and/or ~/.config that start with "file://" as the name.
> >Common factor here seems to be that all these are maildir folders used
> >by 
> >akonadi to store stuff, for example knotes notes.
> >
> >- "empty all trashcans" only works on the trashcan in the account that
> >you 
> >have selected, and then only when you are actually looking at that
> >trash 
> >folder, and then only when you are lucky.
> >
> >- sending mails leaves copies of the mails in local-folders/outbox even
> >though 
> >the mails are properly put into the sent folder for the account that
> >sent 
> >them.
> >
> >now the advocatus diaboli raises his head and asks: if other pim-like
> >apps 
> >(thunderbird) can do all this without a "middleware" like akonadi, and
> >do it 
> >right, what is the point of akonadi?
> >
> >And YES i AM ranting.
> >
> >Sorry, had to let that out.
> >
> >
> >Cheers
> >MH
> >
> >*Mathias Homann*
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