[kdepim-users] Searching x 2

Anders Lund anders at alweb.dk
Sun Jan 29 09:24:19 GMT 2012


Søndag den 29. januar 2012 09:36:48 O. Sinclair skrev:
> ~qdbus org.kde.NepomukServer /nepomukserver quit
> ~rm -rf $(kde4-config --localprefix)/share/apps/nepomuk/
> ~nepomukserver &

That (rm step) removes the nepomuk data, thus forcing it to redo everything, 
and also deleting valuable data if you generate any yourself (by tagging, 
commenting or rating files).  I don't think that step is nessecary. I have not 
practiced that, and all my mail is indexed and searchable - just not from 
within kmail. A proof of that is that typing a word that is in a mail body in 
krunner (ALT + F2 if you run kde) brings a reference to that mail, albeit 
currently useless as stated earlier in this thread.

> helped me at least - though search is still pretty useless. Search for 
> filename "current" and get totally unrelated mp3 files on "top" of 
> search results. KFind works way better.

You are searching for mail file names using dolpin? I have learned yesterday 
that mail is not stored in the directory your storage resource points to, but 
rather a hidden directory of the same name, so that if you use default storage 
of ~/.local/share/local-mail, the mail is actually in ~/.local/share/.local-
mail.directory (notice the dot in the last directory name).

That is a *bug*.

I really don't think the problem is with nepomuk, I believe it is some bug in  
akonadi or its agents. That is only my impression though, but for me, nepomuk 
generally does a very good job.
 
> Sorry am a bit fed up with the whole thing.

Yes, me too, it appears that if I want to use kdepim 4.8 kmail2

* mail is not storaged where configured
* search is not possible.
* search using nepoumk krunner finds items, but can not open them correctly.
* filtering is not possible, because if enabed, akonadi will infinitely 
duplicate mail.
* address completion is not working
* operations moving a lot of mails takes *very* long time and renders the 
system unusable meanwhile, and might require restarting akonadi, nepomuk and 
kmail (importing a folder of 3000 messages is like that, moving them within 
kmail2 not quite so bad, but still bad)

For me, the mosta annoying thing during normal workflow will be the missing 
filtering and address completion. 

Philosophically seen, the wrong location of files is the worst. 

Psycologically seen, the potential overtaking the system for a long, undefined 
period is the worst (I will not feel comfortable not checking mail for a week 
for example, as the potential horror of receiving many mails at one time is 
scary)

On the upside, kmail2 is actually very spiffy and well working, those "small 
details" aside. And for me, updating the rest of kdepim have a very big value, 
esp korganizer that I use quite a bit with many (well, 5-7) resources have 
improved drastically in usability, and kaddressbook can now show all my 
contacts from different resources in one list, which is very handy.

For now, my plan is to try if I can live with kmail2 while it gets fixed. 
Alternatively, I think the quality of kdepim 4.8 in general will make me use 
some othe mail client meanwhile. 

-- 
Anders
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