[kdepim-users] Moving message to folder when mail is opened

Sun Jul 11 12:42:32 BST 2010

Am Sonntag, 11. Juli 2010 11:53:50 schrieb Ingo Klöcker:
> On Saturday 10 July 2010, Pascal Bernhard wrote:
> > Am Samstag, 10. Juli 2010 22:44:13 schrieb Ingo Klöcker:
> > > On Saturday 10 July 2010, Pascal Bernhard wrote:
> > > > Am Samstag, 10. Juli 2010 19:36:13 schrieb Ingo Klöcker:
> > > > > For technical reasons moving a message which is shown in a
> > > > > separate viewer is not possible. There only Copy To is
> > > > > available in the menu.
> > > > 
> > > > What exactly is this technical reason? It works in Evolution. So
> > > > somehow it has to be possible to implement that feature.
> > > 
> > > Of course, it's possible. Anything is possible when it comes to
> > > computers. It's just not possible in KMail due to its current
> > > architecture. Thanks to all the refactoring that was done as part
> > > of the port to Akonadi it will be technically possible to
> > > implement this in KMail2.
> > 
> > And can we expect KMail2? Given that we are now at around version
> > 1.13? I guess that would be about the end of this decade? ;-)
> > 
> > > > > I doubt that this has ever worked. Which tooltip popup told you
> > > > > that it should be possible?
> > > > 
> > > > I didn't pay that much attention to the popup, but do they have
> > > > an ID number, so that I can give some more detail. Next time it
> > > > pops up, I will copy the text.
> > > 
> > > Do you probably mean the Tip of the Day? It says: "Did you know
> > > that you can go to the next and previous message by using the
> > > right and left arrow keys respectively?" This is true but only for
> > > the main window.
> > 
> > Yes, I meant the "Tip of the Day"
> > This is true but only for the main window. Kmail isn't serious, is
> > it? This feature is banal, I think this is the least an user can
> > expect from a mail application, namely to be able to move to the
> > next or previous message when in list view! The option to move to
> > the next mail, when having it opened in a separate window has been
> > implemented in several mail programs, even in MS Office Outlook for
> > nearly a decade or even longer. Difficult to understand that this
> > should not have been considered by users and developers alike to be
> > an essential feature. I personally do not like previewing messages,
> > so I have to close or delete a message before I can go the next one,
> > which is just not very efficient, regarding that I receive several
> > dozens mails per day, and I want to get over with looking through my
> > mail box in a reasonable amount of time.
> 
> Man, you are really stretching my nerves. I simply answered your
> questions honestly, but you keep telling me that we, the developers, are
> not thinking about the users. Your comments like "This feature is banal
> [...]" are bordering on being insults. If all other mail programs have
> all of the features you want then why don't you use those mail programs?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Ingo

Sorry Ingo, 
I didn't to insult anybody. It's just that all programs seem to have things I 
don't like. That's why I use two different mail applications (Outlook is not an 
option with Linux and above all too slow and has too many features I don't use 
and see no sense in using), each with its advantages and its drawbacks. In 
general I find most software somewhat dissatisfying, but as I'm not a developer, 
I cannot improve or customize it, only complain about it, which is easier 
anyway! :-).
Well, it seems that different people have different expectations about what a 
specific program is supposed to do. Apparently I have a weird taste that is not 
commonly shared. I didn't mean that developers do not care about users, but that 
both groups do not want the same features as I do.
Looking forward to Kmail2, whenever it will be released. Is there some sort of 
informal release schedule? I know that things always take longer than originally 
planned, just to have an idea.
-- 

Pascal Bernhard
Schwalbacher Straße 7
12161 Berlin
Germany

Phone/Cell:
+49 30 857 193 41
+49 177 419 26 34

Je me regarde pour me désoler,
je me compare pour me consoler. 

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