[kdepim-users] New computer

Sun Aug 15 14:31:29 BST 2010

Hello!

I do not want to cite all items below. But the thread is perfectly for 
my fear what will happen in some months when Debian squeeze will become 
stable.

I use to update my Debian every time testing becomes stable. I never 
cared about "migration" of data. I do backups regulary, therefore i 
can "risk" something. From KDE 1 to KDE 3.5.10 there has never been a 
hassle with upgrading nor with copying my home directory to a new 
computer.

When testing Kubuntu 10.04. with KDE 4.4. and Kontact i ran into several 
problems with Akonadi. Later it turned out that SeLinux was the 
problem. And, moreover, in this mailing list there were disscussions 
about runing Akonadi "Database" from NFS Mounts or "hot syncing" while 
Akonadi is running. After that (and the awfull KDE 4 Desktop) i 
discarded the Experiment and stayed with Lenny and KDE 3.5.10.

What's my problem? What will happen, if I have to move from Kontact 
1.2.9 / KDE 3.5.10 to KDE 4.4.x (don'nt know Kontact version) when 
squeeze will become stable?

Is there anybody out there who went that way?

* Will the update be seemless and leave/import my old settings?
* And moreover, will i still be able to use Kontact (with Akonadi) 
  over my NFS Mount (I got a home server with several clients importing 
  the /home dirs).
* Historical there has never been a problem to sync data between
  different computers. Akonadi - as noticed in this thread - can not 
  be synced simply and need a special application who does the job. 
  This remembers me of MS-Office, where a "assistant" cares for
  migrating data from pc to pc. If this really happens, KDE will 
  become more and more Windows like. Is the solution to adress that 
  problem to sync/copy the data while i am not logged in? Duhh...
  How many applications will come in the GNU/Linux World, that want 
  to be "shut down" before backed up or synced? Duhh... okay, put 
  it all in one database ... ah, didn't Microsoft plan a new filesystem 
  for Windows Vista/7 which has no files and folders??

If we really want to go this way, i think we have to redesign/reconsider 
the whole way Unix/Linux stores user data and how the data can be 
acessed! Over decades the Unix principles of folders, files and pure 
Textfiles where rock stable. I am very frightend about the future!

As mentioned, some things are historical from unix. Like my NFS and a 
seemless upgrade path which _must_ work after an upgrade from 3 to 4.

But not to be able to sync or backup without considering dozens of 
applications who want to be handled special will turn out to become a 
nightmare!

Ah, one more point: I used to sync "some data" via unison to an usb 
stick, from there to my work notebook and later back to my private pc 
and home server. This will be a problem to in future too? Or?

Any hints or user experiences? Thanks for your comments.

Ecaroh

PS: Please, do not misunderstand me. I am with KDE since 1.x in 2000, 
with kmail, korganizer and all that stuff nearly since their first 
release. I love this software. But i am really concerned about the 
future.

Am Sonntag 15 August 2010 schrieb ianseeks:
> On Sunday 15 August 2010 12:10:31 Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> > On Sunday 15 August 2010, ianseeks wrote:
> > > On Saturday 14 August 2010 22:07:20 Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> > > > On Friday 13 August 2010, ianseeks wrote:
> > > > > On Friday 13 August 2010 19:52:49 Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday 13 August 2010, ianseeks wrote:
> > > > > > > On Friday 13 August 2010 09:44:01 O. Sinclair wrote:
> > > > > > > > Got a new laptop and am busy installing it. So far so 
good.

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