[kdepim-users] next unread mesage, newest or oldest?

Ingo Klöcker kloecker at kde.org
Sun Apr 11 13:29:31 BST 2010


On Saturday 10 April 2010, Dj YB wrote:
> On Saturday April 10 2010 23:50:59 Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> > On Saturday 10 April 2010, Dj YB wrote:
> > > On Saturday April 10 2010 21:07:33 Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> > > > On Saturday 10 April 2010, Dj YB wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday April 10 2010 17:42:29 Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> > > > > > Or is the problem that newer threads are read before older
> > > > > > threads? Is this really a problem? Usually, different
> > > > > > threads are unrelated so it shouldn't really matter in
> > > > > > which order you read them.
> > > > > 
> > > > > that is not a problem for me.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > I think a way to "fix" (as I am not sure what was the
> > > > > > > original goal) this is to look by thread date (if there
> > > > > > > is such a thing)...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I don't think making "next unread message" jump seemingly
> > > > > > randomly from message to message would be very user
> > > > > > friendly.
> > > > > 
> > > > > it shouldn't be random the messages are ordered (when not
> > > > > threaded) by date only descending and not ascending.
> > > > 
> > > > So you suggest that "next unread message" should move upwards
> > > > when the messages are sorted newest first? I think this is
> > > > almost a philosophical question. Does "next" mean "next in
> > > > time" or "next in place"? Should "next" always move up if the
> > > > sort order is descending and move down if the sort order is
> > > > ascending (i.e. also if one sorts by subject)?
> > > 
> > > I only think that next unread is the next first(oldest) unread
> > > message/(thread).
> > > it just seems more natural to read messages in the order they
> > > arrived I think.
> > > 
> > > > I don't think that making the meaning of "next" depend on the
> > > > sort order is a good idea.
> > > 
> > > but it is right now, try sorting by sender or anything not the
> > > date then do a "next unread message" and watch the scrollbar and
> > > the dates, is it jumping according to the date or the position
> > > in the list?
> > 
> > The position. It jumps to the next unread message below the current
> > message.

> is it a bug then or was that the intended behavior?

This is intended behavior. "Next" means "next below the current message" 
where the meaning of below depends on the sort order. This meaning of 
"next" is consistently used for "Next Message", "Next Unread Message", 
"Next Unread Folder" and "Next Unread Text".


Regards,
Ingo
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