[kdepim-users] What is the status of KPilot?

djmills at netspace.net.au djmills at netspace.net.au
Thu Sep 17 10:04:55 BST 2009


Hi George,

Thanks.  The docs only talk about /dev/pilot or /dev/ttyUSB0 etc for devices.  I'd never seen "usb:" anywhere.

That seemed to work.  Except even though I had set all conflict resolutions to "Ask the user" I never got asked anything.  It just seems to have created a lot of duplicate entries on the palm - but no duplicates in kontact.  I'm now going through trying to work out which of the duplicates are the palm only entries to delete.

However, I now have a new problem.  My Palm crashed during a sync.  Now akonadi seems to be having problems.  akonadi_ical_re is chewing through 98% of CPU.

Does anyone know how to fix this?

Regards,

David.


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On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 04:40:26 George Bourozikas wrote:
> On Wednesday 16 September 2009 01:26:06 pm Andre Bischof wrote:
> > djmills at netspace.net.au schrieb:
> > > Hi George,
> > >
> > > which version of kpilot do you have?
> 
> Version 5.3.0 (KDE 4.3.0)
> Using KDE 4.3.1 (KDE 4.3.1)
> 
> > > I've got 4.3.1-156.2 and haven't
> > > managed to have any success.
> > >
> > > Do you use cable 
> 
> cable
> 
> > > or bluetooth.  What device settings/setup did you use?
> 
> Treo 650
> 
> Port                usb:        (including the trailing colon)
> Speed            115200
> Workarounds  none
> Encoding        Greek ( ISO 8859-7 )
> 
> > I would like to get in at that point. I use kontact, kpilot and an Palm
> > Treo 680 (and I'm offered a used Iphone for nothing, so maybe the device
> > will change in the near future).
> > 
> > I use a bluetooth cable, which was difficult to set up for me (udev
> > rules), but now it works.
> > 
> > Syncing is not painless, sometimes I have doubled contacts 
> 
> me too
> 
> > (seems to
> > depend on categories, german umlaute - sometimes I get messages like
> > "calendar conduit could not be synced". 
> 
> that has been my experience as well
> 
> > Conflicts are difficult to
> > solve, as it is sometimes difficult to see what the content of the
> > conflict is.
> 
> True.  I often end up with multiple identical events, one with each sync.  
> Sometimes I modify an event on one end and end up with a different event on the 
> other.  Seems like a result of abundant caution on the part of the developers.  
> Even though it's annoying, I'd much rather have duplicate data than lost data.
> 
> > I tried multisyncgui and the msynctools, which is not without problems
> > either.
> > 
> > It seems to matter in which order the sync is done - first start kpilot,
> > then the sync-button on the mobile device.
> 
> That's true of any kind of pilot syncing, on any OS.
>  
> > George, could you describe or point me to some howto on how to realise
> > the sync between google and the mobile device?
> > 
> > I would appreciate any help on how to get syncing via kpilot without
> > problems.
> > 
> > I use 4:4.3.1-2 with Debian testing/unstable (kpilot, kontact).
> > 
> > Cheers
> > Frisco
> 
> Just to clarify:  I never had communications issues between my workstation and 
> my Treo.  The various pilot-link programs have always worked and I have always 
> been able to backup my device and install files using pilot-xfer.
> 
> It is KPilot that has been a little flaky in the last year or so.  The problems 
> that I have encountered include:
> 
> -- KPilot would go down the various conduits but not synchronize anything
> -- KPilot would erase everything on my Treo (backed up, of course, so no harm 
>    done)
> -- KPilot would erase my Kontact data (also backed up)
> -- Duplicate contacts and events (mostly events), incrementing with each 
>    hotsync
> 
> I have correlated all such issues to the introduction of Akonadi.  As a matter 
> of fact, when I moved from Ubuntu Intrepid to Jaunty, I pinned KPilot to the 
> version shipped in Intrepid, which still used KDE 3.  Unfortunately, at some 
> point the KDE 3 version of KPilot (3.5.10) became totally unresponsive and 
> hang my desktop.
> 
> At that point I started using Evolution, which is an inferior MUA (the address 
> book is horrendous) but had a couple of things going for it:
> 
> -- Pilot sync "just worked"
> -- google contact/calendar sync seems to work pretty well
> 
> Every now and then I'd check KPilot.  As of two days ago KPilot works again 
> (except for ToDo's but I don't care too much about those), so I am back to 
> Kontact, which I prefer.
> 
> I have a couple of ideas re: migration to android/gmail:
> 
> -- wait for the google-akonadi resource to stabilize (it is mostly workable 
>    now) and figure out a way to transfer my contacts and calendar between
>    resources.
> -- go via a one-time sync with Evolution and transfer data between resources 
>    there
> -- massage the ics and vcf databases into csv files and import from gmail/gcal
> 
> In an ideal world, I would like to have the following setup:
> 
> -- A new modern Treo syncing perfectly with KDE/Kontact
> 
> This doesn't look likely (Palm does not look promising), so here is second 
> best:
> 
> -- Android
> -- Over the air sync
> -- Good integration with KDE/Kontact
> 
> It looks like this will be within reach in a couple of months.
> 
> --george
> 
> 
> 
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