[kdepim-users] What is the status of KPilot?
Bruce MacArthur
bmacasuru at fastmail.us
Thu Sep 17 15:44:36 BST 2009
On Thursday 17 September 2009 04:23:41 am djmills at netspace.net.au
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This might be being caused by the problem I'm having with akonadi.
However, I'm trying to clean up the duplicates that the last sync
created.
>
> I've added a distinct dummy phone number to each entry on the palm and
then I'm doing a sync to see which entry gets to be updated on the PC.
Trouble is right at the point of "Committing changes to the handheld" my
phone crashes. Every time. This doesn't happen with Palm's software on
Win XP or with gnome-pilot.
>
> Here's my kpilot log. I've turned of all syncing and backups except
contacts.
>
> 19:18:59 Starting the KPilot dæmon ...
> 19:18:59 Dæmon started.
> 19:18:59 Dæmon status is `.kde.kpilot.daemon was not provided by any
.service files'
> 19:19:00 Next HotSync will be: HotSync. Please press the HotSync
button.
> 19:19:05 Trying to open device usb:...
> 19:19:27 Checking last PC...
> 19:19:27 KPilot 5.3.0 (KDE 4.3.0) HotSync starting...
> 19:19:27 Using encoding ISO-8859-15 on the handheld.
> 19:19:27 [Conduit kpilot-conduit-contacts]
> 19:19:44 Invalid record mapping. Doing first sync.
> 19:19:44 Doing first sync. This may take a while.
> 19:19:44 Syncing handheld records to PC.
> 19:19:46 Syncing PC records to handheld.
> 19:19:48 HH data proxy: Start: 936. End: 976. 40 new records.
> 19:19:48 PC data proxy: Start: 975. End: 976. 732 new records. 731
deleted records.
> 19:19:48 Committing changes to the handheld
>
> Regards,
>
> David.
>
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>
> On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:04:55 djmills at netspace.net.au wrote:
> > Hi George,
> >
> > Thanks. The docs only talk about /dev/pilot or /dev/ttyUSB0 etc for
devices. I'd never seen "usb:" anywhere.
> >
> > That seemed to work. Except even though I had set all conflict
resolutions to "Ask the user" I never got asked anything. It just seems
to have created a lot of duplicate entries on the palm - but no
duplicates in kontact. I'm now going through trying to work out which
of the duplicates are the palm only entries to delete.
> >
> > However, I now have a new problem. My Palm crashed during a sync.
Now akonadi seems to be having problems. akonadi_ical_re is chewing
through 98% of CPU.
> >
> > Does anyone know how to fix this?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > David.
> >
> >
> > > On Wednesday 16 September 2009 01:26:06 pm Andre Bischof wrote:
> > > > djmills at netspace.net.au schrieb:
> > > > > Hi George,
> > > > >
> > > > > which version of kpilot do you have?
> > >
> > > Version 5.3.0 (KDE 4.3.0)
> > > Using KDE 4.3.1 (KDE 4.3.1)
> > >
> > > > > I've got 4.3.1-156.2 and haven't
> > > > > managed to have any success.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you use cable
> > >
> > > cable
> > >
> > > > > or bluetooth. What device settings/setup did you use?
> > >
> > > Treo 650
> > >
> > > Port usb: (including the trailing colon)
> > > Speed 115200
> > > Workarounds none
> > > Encoding Greek ( ISO 8859-7 )
> > >
> > > > I would like to get in at that point. I use kontact, kpilot and
an Palm
> > > > Treo 680 (and I'm offered a used Iphone for nothing, so maybe the
device
> > > > will change in the near future).
> > > >
> > > > I use a bluetooth cable, which was difficult to set up for me
(udev
> > > > rules), but now it works.
> > > >
> > > > Syncing is not painless, sometimes I have doubled contacts
> > >
> > > me too
> > >
> > > > (seems to
> > > > depend on categories, german umlaute - sometimes I get messages
like
> > > > "calendar conduit could not be synced".
> > >
> > > that has been my experience as well
> > >
> > > > Conflicts are difficult to
> > > > solve, as it is sometimes difficult to see what the content of the
> > > > conflict is.
> > >
> > > True. I often end up with multiple identical events, one with
each sync.
> > > Sometimes I modify an event on one end and end up with a different
event on the
> > > other. Seems like a result of abundant caution on the part of the
developers.
> > > Even though it's annoying, I'd much rather have duplicate data
than lost data.
> > >
> > > > I tried multisyncgui and the msynctools, which is not without
problems
> > > > either.
> > > >
> > > > It seems to matter in which order the sync is done - first start
kpilot,
> > > > then the sync-button on the mobile device.
> > >
> > > That's true of any kind of pilot syncing, on any OS.
> > >
> > > > George, could you describe or point me to some howto on how to
realise
> > > > the sync between google and the mobile device?
> > > >
> > > > I would appreciate any help on how to get syncing via kpilot
without
> > > > problems.
> > > >
> > > > I use 4:4.3.1-2 with Debian testing/unstable (kpilot, kontact).
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Frisco
> > >
> > > Just to clarify: I never had communications issues between my
workstation and
> > > my Treo. The various pilot-link programs have always worked and I
have always
> > > been able to backup my device and install files using pilot-xfer.
> > >
> > > It is KPilot that has been a little flaky in the last year or so.
The problems
> > > that I have encountered include:
> > >
> > > -- KPilot would go down the various conduits but not synchronize
anything
> > > -- KPilot would erase everything on my Treo (backed up, of course,
so no harm
> > > done)
> > > -- KPilot would erase my Kontact data (also backed up)
> > > -- Duplicate contacts and events (mostly events), incrementing
with each
> > > hotsync
> > >
> > > I have correlated all such issues to the introduction of Akonadi.
As a matter
> > > of fact, when I moved from Ubuntu Intrepid to Jaunty, I pinned
KPilot to the
> > > version shipped in Intrepid, which still used KDE 3.
Unfortunately, at some
> > > point the KDE 3 version of KPilot (3.5.10) became totally
unresponsive and
> > > hang my desktop.
> > >
> > > At that point I started using Evolution, which is an inferior MUA
(the address
> > > book is horrendous) but had a couple of things going for it:
> > >
> > > -- Pilot sync "just worked"
> > > -- google contact/calendar sync seems to work pretty well
> > >
> > > Every now and then I'd check KPilot. As of two days ago KPilot
works again
> > > (except for ToDo's but I don't care too much about those), so I am
back to
> > > Kontact, which I prefer.
> > >
> > > I have a couple of ideas re: migration to android/gmail:
> > >
> > > -- wait for the google-akonadi resource to stabilize (it is mostly
workable
> > > now) and figure out a way to transfer my contacts and calendar
between
> > > resources.
> > > -- go via a one-time sync with Evolution and transfer data between
resources
> > > there
> > > -- massage the ics and vcf databases into csv files and import from
gmail/gcal
> > >
> > > In an ideal world, I would like to have the following setup:
> > >
> > > -- A new modern Treo syncing perfectly with KDE/Kontact
> > >
> > > This doesn't look likely (Palm does not look promising), so here
is second
> > > best:
> > >
> > > -- Android
> > > -- Over the air sync
> > > -- Good integration with KDE/Kontact
> > >
> > > It looks like this will be within reach in a couple of months.
> > >
> > > --george
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Hello, David --
It would be MUCH better if you would follow the general standard of
putting your comments either at the bottom-end of the message or else
immediately below the applicable portion of that message ("in-line").
THANK YOU for your kind efforts to do things this way!!!
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