[kdepim-users] more gmail imap and expiry questions

Ingo Klöcker kloecker at kde.org
Mon Oct 26 22:10:47 GMT 2009

On Sunday 25 October 2009, Thomas Olsen wrote:
> On 25/10-2009 16:37 Art Alexion <art.alexion at verizon.net> wrote:
> > E Hakan Duran's questions reminded me to ask the following.
> >
> > I use gmail IMAP as well. Directly, not disconnected.  I have
> > expiry set for most folders but not all.  Unlike Mr. Duran, I want
> > the expired messages deleted permanently.  I save the ones I don't
> > wish to lose buy marking them important (which gmail treats as
> > "starred").
> >
> > Yesterday, I notice that messages I thought expiry had blasted into
> > non-existence were still appearing in the all mail folder.  An
> > experiment revealed that this also is what is happening when I
> > "shift delete" a message to skip the trash.  However if I just
> > "delete" a message and allow it to be moved to trash, then empty
> > the trash, its gone.
> >
> > Has anyone found a work around for this behavior, or should I just
> > change all my expiry settings to "move to trash"?
> Said shortly: Yes :-) And it should be moving it to the _GMail_ Trash
> folder.

This is due to Google's idea of mail storage which does not map directly 
to IMAP. If you delete a message from the folder then GMail simply 
removes the corresponding label from this message.

> > Another question.  The "expire all folders" command in the file
> > menu is a bit scary.  Does it just apply the folder defined expiry
> > settings to folders that have expiry settings, or does it somehow
> > delete mail I didn't wish to expire?

Of course, it only expires those folders that have expiry settings. 
Everything else would be insane. :-)

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