[kdepim-users] Sending mail later...?

Ingo Klöcker kloecker at kde.org
Thu Aug 20 15:58:08 BST 2009


On Wednesday 19 August 2009, r bartlett wrote:
> From: Ingo Klöcker <kloecker at kde.org>
> To: kdepim-users at kde.org
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 5:47:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [kdepim-users] Sending mail later...?
>
> > On Tuesday 18 August 2009, r bartlett wrote:
> > > Is there any way to use the "Send Mail Later" feature to have
> > > mail sent at a specified time?  I am thinking of several
> > > applications of this.  In my work I'm often away and unable to
> > > send an email on a friend's birthday or whatever and it would be
> > > nice if by using the "Send Mail Later" feature I could be taken
> > > to a dialog that would, much like a "To Do" event, ask me to
> > > choose the time and date that I would like to send the email.
> >
> > KMail does not have such a feature. It will be pretty easy to
> > implement this in the new Akonadi agent for sending mail that is
> > currently being developed as GSoC project.
> >
> > > Another option would be to have all outgoing mail delayed long
> > > enough (say, 2 minutes) that I would have time to cancel it or
> > > (as I know we all do!) attach the forgotten attachment that we're
> > > referencing and so on.  Few things look sillier than "Please see
> > > my resume attached below" and having to follow it with a "Dooh!"
> > > email 2 seconds later.
> >
> > This won't happen because KMail will show a warning if you try to
> > send a message which contains the word "attached" but which does
> > not have any attachments. The list of signal words can be adjusted
> > in KMail's settings. (Funny enough, when I tried to send this very
> > message, KMail warned me that it does not have anything attached.
> > :-) )
> >
> > > In my case, the "Send Mail Later" feature seems to just put it in
> > > the Outbox rather than in the draft folder, and to send it I have
> > > to Edit it again and then click send the way I normally would. 
> > > It never seems to send if I just leave it there.  Nor do I have
> > > any access to any configuration options to set this up.  I'm not
> > > even sure what the usual functionality is.
> >
> > The messages in the outbox can be sent via File->Send Queued
> > Messages. The "Send Mail Later" feature is useful if you are
> > temporarily offline. If you are always online then it is indeed of
> > little use for you.
> >
> > > I am running Fedora 8 with Kmail version 1.9.10.  It seems like
> > > it would be incredibly useful to have a timer countdown and/or a
> > > calendar send feature for outgoing email.  I am thinking of
> > > upgrading to Fedora 11...might this be working in that?
> >
> > You should probably have a look at KAlarm. It is capable of sending
> > mail at a defined point in time.
>
> The warning feature is wonderful and has saved my tush many times,
> but it of course only works if you've actually said the word
> "attachment" instead of "resume" or "photo" or something similar. 
> :-)  It's not foolproof.

Well, you can extend the list of signal words. Of course, this will 
increase the amount of false warnings.


> There are also those last minute, write it 
> to vent and then click send and then regret it seconds later emails
> (think bosses, ex-girlfriends, etc), where an attachment isn't the
> issue.  Being able to set a small, 1-2 minute cancellation window
> would be fantastic and (imhotibnp -- in my humble opinion though I be
> no programmer!) not too difficult to code.

I humbly disagree. It is definitely more difficult to code in a clean 
way than you might imagine.


> Any sense of when the Akonadi will transpire?

It is currently planned for KDE 4.5 (to be released in Q3 2010).


Regards,
Ingo
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