Question about workflow

[Loïc Vanderstichelen]

Thank you François.

I expected something less tedious because there is a lot of footage.

Impossible to edit directly with audio from the camera. High quality 
audio is important at this step.

And nesting each file in a project is a lot of work for an unreliable 
result.

Another solution could be to export each HQ audio file after sync 
process and join them with FFmpeg as second audio stream (batch process 
and no re-encoding in this case).

I checked if it was possible to automate all this with opentimelineio 
(to get TC in-out for each audio) but it's seem that opentimelineio 
doesn't seem to work (but the API is installed).

I will continue as I did before : store footage at the beginning of the 
timeline and copy-paste the files needed at the end of the timeline to edit.

So now I'm sure there are no other solutions in this case.

Thank you very mush for your help.

Cheers,

Loïc



Le 16/12/21 à 15:33, François Téchené a écrit :
>
> Hi Loïc,
>
> I think that the "save timeline zone to bin" feature just saves a cut 
> from a clip to the bin. It doesn't nest a portion of the timeline.
>
> My personal workflow with Kdenlive is to do all my edit with the audio 
> from the camera. Once I am happy with my edit, I create a new project 
> to sync the high quality audio to every single shot that I used on my 
> edit and I render a new footage file for each of them. Finally, I 
> replace the footage clips in my edit (right click on the footage clip 
> and choose "Replace clip").
>
> While I think that this workflow works well, it is not ideal because 
> re-rendering high quality footage for each clip may consume a lot of 
> hard drive space.
>
> Another solution would be to make each audio synced clip as a new 
> Kdenlive project and import each project to the main project bin. That 
> is the only way I found for nesting timelines. However, in my 
> experience, nesting Kdenlive files is pretty slow and not always reliable.
>
> The best solution would be to be able to sync up the audio with each 
> clip at the Project Bin level. I don't know if this kind of feature is 
> planned for a future version of Kdenlive but that would be awesome!
>
> Cheers,
>
> François
>
>
> On 16/12/2021 11:22, Loïc Vanderstichelen wrote:
>>
>> Dear Kdenlive Team,
>>
>> I have a question about the workflow and I don't know how to solve it.
>>
>> As you can see on the following screenshot, we are working with a 
>> camera and an external audio recorder.
>>
>> Then we sync both audio tracks (thanks to the align audio to 
>> reference) and we group clips (CTRL + G).
>>
>> I don't know if there is a way to add those synchronized clips to the 
>> project bin ?
>>
>> I tried with a mark in-out on the timeline and "save timeline zone to 
>> bin" but no effects.
>>
>> Kdenlive's screenshot
>>
>>
>> For the moment, I place all the dailies at the beginning of the 
>> timeline and the editing at the end.
>>
>> Nested timeline will be definitely helpful in this case in a way 
>> dailies can be placed on a separate timeline while editing is done on 
>> another.
>>
>> I don't know if anyone works the same way (I think it's a very common 
>> situation) and how do you solve the problem ?
>>
>> Thank you very mush for your help.
>>
>> Loïc
>>
>>
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