[Kdenlive-devel] copy/paste
Vincent PINON
vincent.pinon at laposte.net
Fri Jun 15 21:29:57 UTC 2012
Sorry for not being clear :-/
Let's say we prepare a 1h movie, splitted in 10mn chapters, each in one
kdenlive project file (already >100 clips for each chapter).
A topic that was integrated in chapter 1 (say 4mn of interview,
illustration, actions all mixed) would actually fit really well in
chapter 3, but with alternating responses from an other edited interview
(5 other mn with precisely adjusted transitions etc) forming a new 9mn
sequence all mixed-up, but keeping many audio alignments, cross fades or
whatever.
Copying 4mn of timeline from chapter 1, pasting into chapter 2 (other
kdenlive project), changing many things...
If the new edits prove good, maybe images from chapter 1 will be deleted
(maybe few non-redundant images will be kept), but no need to
synchronize at all the timelines : it is a totally new edition trial.
(Technical detail : the clips can have been imported in advance in
chapter 2...)
At last, in the main project, chapters timelines might be dropped as a
whole.
The result is a main timeline with access to sub-timelines, but that can
exchange data and move parts from one to another (called "pistes
gigognes" in french, sorry I can't remember the translation in the
reverse way!)
Le 15/06/2012 22:51, Simon A. Eugster a écrit :
> On 15.06.2012 19:39, Vincent PINON wrote:
>> [life] I convinced my wife (videast) to switch to kdenlive more than one
>> year back [/life]
>> up to now she has edited only rather short movies (~5-10mn), and never
>> missed anything without finding an acceptable workaround.
>> But for few weeks she started working on a longer, complex documentary,
>> with many sequences to mix, searching for constructions that make the
>> more sense, rythm etc.
>> From her previous habits, she splitted her work into chapters and
>> sequences, but after some trials she finds that some parts would
>> eventually be really relevant *mixed* with others. So it would be
>> beneficial to keep some constructions, grouped elements etc, but with
> Clear so far.
>
>> total freedom to merge and interleave with other pre-assembled shots.
> Other pre-assembled shots. What are those? An extract of the whole
> timeline (maybe excluding sound)? Just one video?
>
>> For now she accepts to restart from a copy of the longest basis and redo
>> the work for the new imported parts, but she wouldn't recommend this
>> process to colleagues that would be interested by this free alternative
>> (without great motivations and convictions)...
> ewww ... jep.
>
>> That's why I am interested to work on what I feel is missing, as from my
>> local point of view it would be greatly beneficial for the project, and
>> I believe I could handle it (with some some wise advice from time to
>> time ;-))
> The reason why I'm not convinced yet is Copy/Paste. You update the
> original, you have to adjust the copy (copIES) too. That I find totally
> unnecessary work which I want to avoid as far as possible.
> So I hope we can find a better method that ideally could also be used
> for different use cases :)
>
> Simon
>
>
>> Le 15/06/2012 18:02, Pascal Fleury a écrit :
>>> Especially as a project can be imported as a clip in another project.
>>>
>>> --paf
>>>
>>> Le 15 juin 2012 13:35, "Simon A. Eugster" <simon.eu at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:simon.eu at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>>>
>>> Hey Vincent,
>>>
>>> before implementing this, what would be a use case for copy/paste?
>>>
>>> I.e., Is it really something we need, or could the problem perhaps be
>>> solved differently? The reason for asking this is that I never missed
>>> this feature so far, and there are other places to work on too :)
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
>>> On 15.06.2012 11:44, Vincent PINON wrote:
>>> > Hi devs,
>>> >
>>> > I started to study how to add clipboard support, to be able to reuse
>>> > timeline sections from one project to another (assuming for the
>>> > beginning that clips are present in both projects?)
>>> >
>>> > I wanted to discuss with you about the interchange format to use
>>> (mime
>>> > data) : shouldn't it be a a full kdenlive document by itself? (like
>>> > drawings in clipboard can be saved as autonomous metafiles...)
>>> > Then the paste feature would be a kind of "project merge", which
>>> > implementation is not complete, according to a changelog
>>> search... (1st
>>> > step to complete then)
>>> >
>>> > Or would you suggest another approach?
>>> >
>>> > BR,
>>> >
>>> > Vincent.
>>> >
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