[Kdenlive-devel] off-line video editing (Oceanwatcher)

[Branislav Nakic]

>
> I wonder if blender is doing this sort of deep processing with video
> filters, etc. I think blender is an amazing tool with quite a
> different appeal than what kdenlive offers


I think it does. At least it doesn't hide it from rendering options. I don't
have experience with those things so I can't attest. Speaking of which,
Blender is an excellent example of successful art oriented FOSS software.
Maybe kdenlive developers should take a look at their 'business model',
although, obviously there are a lot of differences between the two.

To add to the futile pro/amateur discussion as a 'professional', I've
noticed that the main advantage of free software vs. proprietary  is that
you can deploy it as much as you like without licensing fuss. For instance,
I regularly use Avidemux and Blender at work and because I work on several
machines  the amount of money that is saved that way is not negligible.  So,
however bad it may sound, the best way for Kdenlive to advance in
professional  circles would be to port it to Windows, if at all possible.
Also i must say that I don't expect the devs to use their extra time to make
pro tool for free and I'm perfectly satisfied with it being a an 'amateur'
tool BUT right now  I'm not using it even for youtube videos beause of is
it's instability. I think you guys have done a great job with the interface
and features so maybe you should concentrate on those crashes?

bane





On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Dan Dennedy <dan at dennedy.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:33 AM, <diffid at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Compositing is done at 32bit float these days and there's the rub
> kdenlive
> > is just playing catch up with what an NLE was providing 10-15 yrs ago
> > without the stability, features or maturity.
>
> I wonder if blender is doing this sort of deep processing with video
> filters, etc. I think blender is an amazing tool with quite a
> different appeal than what kdenlive offers. Also, Lumiera might be
> trying to do this level of processing. It can be good to have multiple
> projects in the same space - each with their own trade-offs.
>
> > The arrogant part i agree with provide a framework for a gpl'd open
> source
> > app and restrict certain features as 'Pro' to be paid for due to
> > underlying commercial vested interests.
>
> Except that the commercial interests are not just implied as
> "underlying" may suggest; rather, they are overt. Hey, I am just
> trying to do more of what I love to do. I know of some former foss
> developers that have taken a job in the post or film software field
> that are now restricted from doing foss development.
>
> > Yes there is no reason why people should not profit from GPL'd
> > applications or be shouted at for not providing a solid underlying
> > framework for higher end use for serious amateurs or semi pro's.
> >
> > That's why I've lost interest in kdenlive, it will get talked up by
> > everyone as Linux's prime NLE and fall flat with anyone wanting to do
> > serious amateur / Pro work.
>
> Most pros know Autodesk (Discreet) Smoke is Linux's premier NLE.
>
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