Years later, kmail still is not a viable email client?

Marek Kochanowicz sirherrbatka at
Thu Oct 15 06:32:16 BST 2020

This discussion is not a constructive one.

Draciron Smith pisze:
> Akondi is a monster that drove me away from KDE. If you do not have the
> latest greatest machine and multitask, Akondi will bring your machine to
> it's knees, then flog it, then draw and quarter your memory resources,
> grind your hard drive into dust, then chew up the remains. I had to switch
> to Trinity to get back a usable machine. So I will strongly beg to differ
> with your statement about Akondi being spoken of in any sort of positive
> manner.
> First on principle. The integrated PIM is mostly obsolete. Phones today
> have the CPU horsepower desktops had back when KDE 3 was embarked upon. A
> phone is a natural place to do contact management. Getting ISPs to continue
> support for POP3 & IMAP is like pulling teeth and when you do get support
> you gat ONE email address. So realistically if you want to do old school
> client server email you basically need a domain and a server where you
> control your email or you live alone without children. A dedicated domain
> and server is out of the cost range of most people. So webmail is really
> the only option for most people. I have email lists of 100+ people and
> might maybe have 1 or 2 people on those lists not using webmail. Those that
> do not are using work accounts usually.
> So what value is there in apparently doubling the memory footprint of KDE
> for something 90% of the folks do not even use?  Doing so precludes using
> older machines. Which is the bulk of Linux users and one of the great draws
> of Linux. That is you don't have to go buy a new spiffy high end machine
> every couple of years just to do what you were doing just fine on an older
> machine.  Akondi is increased resource demands with little to no value and
> turns a high end machine into a single tasking device that doesn't even
> match up to what your phone can do in those areas. I do not need 8 gigs of
> RAM on a phone to manage contacts. 4 gigs is simply not enough for a
> machine running Akondi. Not and actually multitask.
> KDE 4, I disable Akondi, 4 gigs of RAM on this machine. 2 gigs fo RAM on 2
> other machines running KDE 4 with Akondi disabled. Worked great. Ubuntu
> 14.04 LTS goes out of support. I have to upgrade to 16.04 and KDE 5 and my
> 2 Gig machines barely boot. My 4 Gig machine acts like I'm running WIn 95.
> It's constantly freezing. Locking up so tight I can't even SSH in. I have
> to power off at times to get it to come back after literally hours of just
> churning. I put Trinity on those machines they work great again. Hell even
> Gnome gave me better performance than KDE 5. I'm running 20.04 on one
> machine using Trinity and all good. XFCE also runs rine as a desktop
> manager. KDE has become the rich man's desktop as the poor cannot afford
> the hardware to use KDE anymore.  I've been using KDE for my desktop
> manager since the 90s. I really like KDE, but it has become windoze like in
> hardware demands and performance. There's a reason I dumped windoze in 2000
> and never looked back. KDE is now causing the same problems that caused me
> to dump windoze 20 years ago.
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 6:16 AM Marek Kochanowicz <sirherrbatka at>
> wrote:
> > Yeah, i actually have manjaro on the other machine and kmail works there
> > fine
> > as well. So it seems for me that questionable packaging techniques are a
> > factor here but I can't tell the precise details.
> > 
> > As for the importance of the akonadi: it is actually a well designed piece
> > of
> > software architecture that simplifies all PIM apps drastically. Removing
> > akonadi from PIM is not only (IMHO) pointless but also prohibitively
> > expensive
> > endeavor. Instead I would try to investigate what is the actual problem
> > with
> > the packaging and try to seek some kind of remedy for it.

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