Years later, kmail still is not a viable email client?

Draciron Smith draciron at
Wed Oct 14 23:22:59 BST 2020

Akondi is a monster that drove me away from KDE. If you do not have the
latest greatest machine and multitask, Akondi will bring your machine to
it's knees, then flog it, then draw and quarter your memory resources,
grind your hard drive into dust, then chew up the remains. I had to switch
to Trinity to get back a usable machine. So I will strongly beg to differ
with your statement about Akondi being spoken of in any sort of positive

First on principle. The integrated PIM is mostly obsolete. Phones today
have the CPU horsepower desktops had back when KDE 3 was embarked upon. A
phone is a natural place to do contact management. Getting ISPs to continue
support for POP3 & IMAP is like pulling teeth and when you do get support
you gat ONE email address. So realistically if you want to do old school
client server email you basically need a domain and a server where you
control your email or you live alone without children. A dedicated domain
and server is out of the cost range of most people. So webmail is really
the only option for most people. I have email lists of 100+ people and
might maybe have 1 or 2 people on those lists not using webmail. Those that
do not are using work accounts usually.

So what value is there in apparently doubling the memory footprint of KDE
for something 90% of the folks do not even use?  Doing so precludes using
older machines. Which is the bulk of Linux users and one of the great draws
of Linux. That is you don't have to go buy a new spiffy high end machine
every couple of years just to do what you were doing just fine on an older
machine.  Akondi is increased resource demands with little to no value and
turns a high end machine into a single tasking device that doesn't even
match up to what your phone can do in those areas. I do not need 8 gigs of
RAM on a phone to manage contacts. 4 gigs is simply not enough for a
machine running Akondi. Not and actually multitask.

KDE 4, I disable Akondi, 4 gigs of RAM on this machine. 2 gigs fo RAM on 2
other machines running KDE 4 with Akondi disabled. Worked great. Ubuntu
14.04 LTS goes out of support. I have to upgrade to 16.04 and KDE 5 and my
2 Gig machines barely boot. My 4 Gig machine acts like I'm running WIn 95.
It's constantly freezing. Locking up so tight I can't even SSH in. I have
to power off at times to get it to come back after literally hours of just
churning. I put Trinity on those machines they work great again. Hell even
Gnome gave me better performance than KDE 5. I'm running 20.04 on one
machine using Trinity and all good. XFCE also runs rine as a desktop
manager. KDE has become the rich man's desktop as the poor cannot afford
the hardware to use KDE anymore.  I've been using KDE for my desktop
manager since the 90s. I really like KDE, but it has become windoze like in
hardware demands and performance. There's a reason I dumped windoze in 2000
and never looked back. KDE is now causing the same problems that caused me
to dump windoze 20 years ago.

On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 6:16 AM Marek Kochanowicz <sirherrbatka at>

> Yeah, i actually have manjaro on the other machine and kmail works there
> fine
> as well. So it seems for me that questionable packaging techniques are a
> factor here but I can't tell the precise details.
> As for the importance of the akonadi: it is actually a well designed piece
> of
> software architecture that simplifies all PIM apps drastically. Removing
> akonadi from PIM is not only (IMHO) pointless but also prohibitively
> expensive
> endeavor. Instead I would try to investigate what is the actual problem
> with
> the packaging and try to seek some kind of remedy for it.
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