change tab switch keystrokes in Konsole, and other stuff?

Duncan 1i5t5.duncan at
Wed Jan 23 06:37:17 GMT 2013

David Melik posted on Sun, 20 Jan 2013 00:10:09 -0800 as excerpted:

> I use Konsole, and I would like to be able to switch tabs the way I
> would on a typical console, such as with alt and a direction rather than
> shift and a direction. This is partly because I want to use MCedit, or
> hopefully SETedit in the future, which are like DOS text editrs that use
> shift and a direction to highlight text. I did not see the option to
> change these keys in the Konsole settings.

Another mc user! =:^)

FWIW, I believe it was kde 4.9 (or was it 4.8?) that introduced a fix to 
the mouse in konsole, so mc worked better with it in very tall or wide 
windows.  That was a fix I was waiting for and got to appreciate rather 
sooner than most, as I hopped on the prereleases from the first beta, two 
months before release. =:^)

To your question:  Yes, there's an option for tab-switching hotkey (as 
well as the ability to set hotkeys to go directly to any of the first 10 
tabs... among other things).  But I think you were looking in the general 
konsole settings, while konsole, as pretty much all kde apps, has a 
separate dialog for shortcut/hotkey settings.  Look in the settings menu, 
configure shortcuts option/dialog.  The entries in question are next tab 
and previous tab.  There's also the switch to tab X (where X is 1 to 10) 
entries, if you prefer them.

At least there is in kde 4.9.98, aka 4.10-rc3, which is what I'm running 
ATM.  You didn't mention your kde version, but I doubt that has changed 
recently, very possibly it has been the same since the kde3 era.

> Is there a way for Konsole, or a program in it, to override which
> clipboard it uses? If I am able to use a text editor like this that I
> want, it also uses typical clipboard commands... but I want it
> restricted to its own editor, or to link its clipboard to KDE's, which I
> might do.

konsole, like most kde apps and indeed most X apps, simply uses the 
traditional X clipboard and selection resources.  FWIW, mc works with the 
gpm (text-console mouse driver) based selection in a text VC, or the x-
based selection in a terminal window such as konsole.  mc also has its 
own clipfile based resources, but that is again an entirely separate 

Thus, you actually have three selection/clipboard based resources 
available to you when using mc in konsole, the native X clipboard and 
selection resources, and mc's own clipfile resource.  You may use all 
three separately, or pick the one you prefer, it's up to you.

Meanwhile, while the mc clipfile resources are entirely separate (and 
file-based), there's quite a bit of configurability available in kde (and 
thus konsole) for the X-based resources.  klipper is the kde-native 
clipboard-helper tool, allowing to keep a ring-buffer of N elements, with 
N being configurable, and also to either merge (by copying one to the 
other) or keep separate the selection and clipboard resources.

In mc, meanwhile (as in several other similar "semigui" apps when run in 
a terminal window such as konsole), holding the "shift" key along with 
mousing allows you to do traditional X/gpm text selection to the X 
selection buffer.  Whether that also hits the X clipboard buffer and/or 
activates klipper's own popup actions would then depend on how you have 
klipper configured.  Here, I have it configured to activate klipper 
popups, but I keep the X clipboard and selection resources separate.  
However, if I manually activate klipper and select an entry from its 
buffer, that gets copied to both the selection and the clipboard, thus 
giving me a way to transfer content between them, should I wish to do so.

I'm not sure all functionality is there if you use the keyboard alone or 
not.  I believe from kde's perspective it is, but the X/gpm select/paste 
feature is intended to work with a mouse, and I'm not sure if it's 
possible to use the keyboard to bypass that or not.  You could still 
paste in using the clipboard, but I'm not sure if it's possible to select 
in ordered to copy, without the mouse.

Meanwhile, for those sufficiently advanced who would like mc's clipfile 
functionality integrated as well, given that it's simply a file, it 
should be quite possible to hack up a script that would watch that file 
and/or the X clipboard (probably using scripted dbus commands for the 
latter), and copy content from one to the other (again using scripted dbus 
commands for the X clipboard side) when the watched content changes.  I 
expect I could do it were I motivated to, but I prefer having the 
separate resources as I often use them in combination, since that gives 
me the ability to store and access three separate paste resources at 
once, so it's not something I'd be likely to find much use for.

Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
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