Possible bug in kwin or ??

gene heskett gheskett at wdtv.com
Tue Apr 26 03:15:18 BST 2011

On Monday, April 25, 2011 09:49:58 PM Duncan did opine:

> gene heskett posted on Mon, 25 Apr 2011 11:19:12 -0400 as excerpted:
> > Funnily, I don't recall the last time I actually used krunner, if that
> > is what its called.  I keep plenty of terminal shells open. krunner
> > hides errors, a shell doesn't...
> FWIW, I use both, with hotkeys to launch whichever I want.
> If you haven't used krunner in awhile, consider trying it for a few
> things.  You might be pleasantly surprised.
> For instance, need the result of some simple math?  Type it into krunner
> like so (here I'm converting the day's forcasted high from Celsius,
> which I'm trying to get familiar with and thus have the weather applet
> configured to display, to Fahrenheit).
> 32*1.8+32=
> krunner gives me the result, 89.6F. No need to open a real calculator.
> =:^)
> (Of course, doing it in my head, I'd simply double the 32 to 64, move a
> decimal, 6.4, and subtract, giving me the 1.8 multiplier, 64-6.4=57.6,
> then add the 32 zero-point adjust, 57.6+32=59.6+30=89.6.  I don't need a
> calculator for that, but it illustrates the point.)
The urge to shout 'smartass' comes to mind. :-)  My math skills need a 
calculator, like the kcalc of 5 years ago, but even that code seems to be 
suffering from bit rot recently.  With only an 8th grade formal education, 
what higher math I have learned was taught to me by my first scientific 
calculator, a TI SR-51.  But I have been making things electronic work 
again for a living for about 60 years, nearly 50 of them in broadcasting
That didn't stop me from getting an FCC 1st Phone, which was thrown under 
the buss by the FCC 25 years ago, and a C.E.T., and that test was far more 
complete that the 1st phone ever thought of being.

OTOH, to put that into perspective, that and $1.33, will get you a 16 oz 
coffee to go at 7-11.  ;-)

> Or... how long should a 4.2 GB DVD image take to download at my new
> rated download speed of 15Mbps, compared to 12Mbps?
> 4.2 GB (2^10) * 8bit/Mb (10^3)/s /15 (multiplier)
> 4.2*1024*1024*1024*8/1000/1000/60/15=
> Just over 40 minutes @ 15 Mbit/sec
> ... change the 15 to 12...
> Just over 50 minutes @ 12 Mbit/sec
> Accounting for overhead, figure 45-50 minutes vs an hour.
> Krunner looks for that terminating equals and throws up a result when it
> sees it and the stuff before it looks like a math expression. =:^)
> Then there's the example I first used.  If you type a dotted address
> that looks like either an IP address or domain into krunner, it'll give
> you the choice of opening it in whatever the kde-default browser is
> (konqueror, here).
> But, it also searches konqueror's bookmarks and offers any that match as
> additional choices.
> Then there's the web shortcuts.  A number of them (like gg:search term,
> for google) are on by default.  So you can enter gg: and a search term
> directly in krunner, and it'll give you the choice of opening a google
> search for that term in, again, the kde configured browser.
> It's possible to setup your own shortcuts.  By default, ggl: sends you
> to the google's I'm feeling lucky top-hit page, but I never use that,
> while I *DO* often use google's dedicated Linux search at
> google.com/linux, so I changed the default ggl: entry to be a
> google/linux search here.  By default there's entries for the kde bug
> database (tho I'm not sure they're actually active by default).  I have
> those, but I use custom entries for the Gentoo bug database more. 
> There's a wikipedia shortcut (wp:) available by default.  Etc.
> Web shortcuts can be used in either the konqueror address bar or in
> krunner.  They're configured in konqueror's config dialog, web shortcuts
> config applet.

Sorry, konqueror's claim to be a file manager has always struck me as 
bogus.  Compared to the mc of 6 to 10 years ago, its worthless.  OTOH, 
features are disappearing from mc at a rate that will have it back to 
failing kindergarten questions in another 2 or 3 years.  Yes, I miss the 
glory days when mc could literally do it all.
> If you have the semantic desktop active, and the krunner applet that
> uses it (both of which I have turned off, here), typing parts of an
> email subject will let you open it.
> Typing a path, for instance /usr/share, gives you the option to open it
> in kde's configured default file manager (dolphin by default, but it
> can be konqueror or gwenview or...).

Another one I haven't figured out.  It needs a reason to exist, and I 
haven't detected one yet.  Ditto for Krusader, but it at least defaults to 
a 2 panel mode.  Nice eye Kandy, but needs some real ability.
> So yeah, I use krunner reasonably frequently, especially for stuff that
> I don't need the STDOUT/STDERR from.  But I use konsole a lot as well. 
> For file management and text editing with my sysadmin hat on, I
> actually prefer mc, opened either in konsole or at a CLI login outside
> of X, to a graphical file manager or text editor like konqueror/dolphin
> or kwrite. Being a Gentooer, I do all my package management, building,
> etc, at the CLI, again, either in a konsole window or at a CLI login
> outside X.  Etc.
> So I use both krunner and konsole, for different things. =:^)

Each of us obviously uses what we are comfortable with.  I'm comfy with mc.  
Run from a konsole, su - optional depending on what you need it to do...  

Thanks Duncan.

Cheers, Gene
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