KDE 3 users: What are the last of the KDE 3 features missing from KDE 4?

Greg Parrish gparrish at highmarkcompanies.com
Tue Jul 14 15:59:06 BST 2009

Duncan thanks for the feedback. I just joined the list here so I am 
getting up to speed on KDE 3/4 changes and the experience of others. I 
use my laptop for work but run a few VMs at home for testing things like 
this. I am looking to move to FC11 from FC8 but I need it to be usable 
without lots of grief while at work. Oddly your post was one of the 
first I saw so I replied. Some more feedback below.

Duncan wrote:
> Greg Parrish <gparrish at highmarkcompanies.com> posted
> 4A5B2E81.3090408 at highmarkcompanies.com, excerpted below, on  Mon, 13 Jul
> 2009 08:54:25 -0400:
>> I am still on Fedora 8 with KDE 3.5. I am toying with FC11 on a VM on
>> another machine.
> I'm not sure what KDE version that is.  The below is for 3.5.10 and 4.2.4.

That is 'kdebase-3.5.10-2.fc8' so for the most part the kde components 
are 3.5.10-1 or 3.5.10-2.

>> The things I see missing are in Konsole for the most part with the new
>> version there. Here are just a few items I am still looking to resolve.
>> 1. In Konsole there is no auto-resize option for the tabs, appears to be
>> gone
> Hmm, I've never used that feature.  I actually quickly remerged 
> konsole:3.5 here to see where it was and check 4.2.  You're right, it's 
> not there in 4.2.  In 3.5, context-clicking on the tab bar (seems to be 
> only the empty part, so must be done before it gets too full) brings up a 
> menu with auto resize tabs on it.
> Interesting, but I turned it off.  Maybe when I get playing with my 
> netbook again, I'll find it useful there, but that's why I have dual 
> monitors, to avoid too many tabs, etc.  So the auto-resize isn't all that 
> useful, here.
> But yes, it is indeed missing.

Yea I used it during initial setup but not a lot after that but noticed 
it was missing in kde4. I use lots of tabs at work to connect to many 
different hosts. I got to the point where I just opened about 15 tabs 
and they would stay in that config through logouts and reboots. The 
thing I did to make it work was just rename all the tabs to "1" - "15" 
then I start to stick regular daily actions to certain tabs through 
habit. Since there is no auto resize in kde4 I just used the manual 
rename to a short name to get by. Then on occasion I will rename the tab 
if needed, on reboot it will revert to 1-15 so that works still which is 
a fine workaround.
>> 2. In Konsole I can not remap the copy/paste keys in the profile.
> Hmm.  That's not in the profile here (for either 3.5 or 4.2).  It's under 
> Configure Shortcuts, and yes, I tested it and it does seem to work.  Tho 
> I didn't try to save the changes to see if they'd stick and get applied 
> in new konsole windows.  Is that what's failing?

I had not found that but I will try it tonight in the VM. I went back to 
check my system here and you are correct it is under shortcut and not 
profile, so that is a fix for me, great!
>> 3. In general, KDE components crashing, but this has improved.
> That has indeed improved.  As I've said in other threads, I'm still using 
> a kde3 based desktop, but with kde4 apps, now, and don't run a kde4 
> desktop enough to know if it's fully stable yet (I've enough other issues 
> to make kde4 impossible to run as a working desktop), but it certainly 
> has improved, as at least I can play with it now, without everything 
> crashing all the time.

This sounds good. I am tweaking out my VM so I can upgrade my laptop 
soon and quickly get back to where I am now. I did this a while back and 
went to FC9 and it was a nightmare so I decided no more of that until it 
is tested. KDE4 was the deal breaker of course and as I recall it was so 
bad I somehow could not even get back to using gnome so I just 
reinstalled FC8 which is great.


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