Why KDE4 is called KDE?

Draciron Smith draciron at gmail.com
Thu Dec 10 05:21:37 GMT 2009

Good points Kevin on desktop implimentation vs the architechture.  I
don't know enough about the arch to honestly comment on it, I am
talking about the workspace which lost a great deal of flexibility and
functionality.  Just adding an app is unreasonably difficult. What was
wrong with right click, browse for what your looking for or cut and
paste, set your command line, etc. It was easy to use, very flexible
and didn't limit you too just KDE apps, didn't even limit you to X

In terms of workspace the desktops and panels are very primitive. KDE
2.x had more customization and functionality, actually I think KDE 1.x
did as well. Been a long time since I ran KDE 1.x  which was just
called KDE back then.

The problems with folder view is that either you replace the desktop
with it if you want to locate around commonly opened windows and it
doesn't appear in the taskbar so you can easily get at it.  I don't
have one open and no idea how to open it back up once closed but if I
remember correctly it had no minimize function either. So no way to
prevent accidentally clicking through if you had an app slow to close.
As such you could accidentally launch apps or docs and such without
realizing it.  For the folderview to be useful it needs to be easy to
open, close, add too, resize and create new ones. The folderview
applet adds a Dophin not a folder view window. It also assumes /home
is the whole world. Which it's not in many cases. I personally use a
/data and /home scheme keeping as much user data as possible OUT of
/home and keeping /home as purely for cgf settings as possible. I have
4 drives in this machine and I'm honestly not interested in make them
all LVM volumes.

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Kevin Krammer <kevin.krammer at gmx.at> wrote:
> On Wednesday, 2009-12-09, Draciron Smith wrote:
>> Folder deskview? Let me wretch, first thing I do is close that thing
>> down. I don't want to "navigate" I want my apps close and easy to get
>> too. Stuff I use every day 100 times a day I want on the panel. Not on
>> a desktop I rarely ever see. To even get too the folderview I'd have
>> to find an empty desktop. On the other desktops it'd just be an
>> accident waiting to happen when I click through an app and accidently
>> launch or do something I didn't mean to do.
> This is a nice demonstration how useful the added customization option
> regarding things on the desktop is.
> Some users like the desktop to be one collection of icons, basically the
> traditional way. Some users, like yourself, don't want anything on their
> desktops, some users, like myself, want several grouped icons on their
> desktop.
> Through the move from a single hardcoded location displayed as a desktop
> overlay to the options of either having one folderview as the desktop, no
> folderview at all or several of them, it is now possible to address all three
> usage patterns equally.
> Additionally, the new architecture allows third parties to offer replacements
> for any such component, thus making it easier to address even more usage
> patterns without having these third parties burden with the task of writing a
> whole new root window manager application.
> Oh, and while I usually also look for an empty desktop to access the files in
> my folder views, there is the dashboard shortcut (CTRL+F12).
>> KDE 4 lost tons of funcitonality and is far less customizable. You
>> would honestly trade all that for eye candy?
> Since you seem to be addressing the workspace only, did you mean that when
> writing "KDE 4" or did you mean all applications produced with the recent
> development framework?
> I am asking because the applications I am using seem to have gained
> customization options, e.g. KMail's new message list options.
> Cheers,
> Kevin
> --
> Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer
> KDE user support, developer mentoring
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