KNotify = Rediculous

[John]

Hi
Not sure what you are trying to do but my mail notification has worked for 
years. I turned others off as they irritated me. Only lost sound when I did a 
partial lib upgrade. Not a knotify problem. I had to enable the open sound 
system. No idea why.
I don't know much about the subject but the graphical way of setting it up is 
via KDE's control centre, sound and multimedia, system notifications. Many 
things can be done on a user basis by any user so root ownership etc makes no 
sense at all.
This suggests that all controls are kept on a user basis so the system might 
be writing what ever that is each time it runs.

Regards
John


On Tuesday 20 December 2005 19:00, Ryan wrote:
> I have this problem with KNotify with ANY distro that I install with any
> version of KDE.  KNotify ALWAYS DISABLES ITSELF.  It's really been
> pissin me off the last few days because it's been turning my own
> ~/.kde/share/knotifyrc file off even when the sound system ISNT crashed
> or down.  The only way to stop it is to chown the file to root, or
> change the permisions to be read only, but that is WRONG I dont care who
> says it's the "correct" way to fix it, it just plain shouldnt be turning
> things false without at least ASKING you to let it change to false.
> This has really been a nightmare for anyone that I've ever tried to get
> to use Linux because every single day (it never fails, it always
> happens), they call me and ask how to get sound running because it just
> suddenly stopped working.  Every time it's always the KnotifyRC that is
> the problem and I've just about had it myself.
>
> My question, is there ANY possible way to stop this from happening other
> than changing the permissions of the file.  Here's an example of what I
> did to test it today on my own machine.
>
> I woke up this mornin, starting messing with some stuff in Konsole and
> noticed the damn beeps were off yet AGAIN.  So as usual, I opened the
> knotifyrc file and changed:
>
> [StartProgress]
> Arts Init=false
> KNotify Init=true
> Use Arts=false
>
> to
>
> [StartProgress]
> Arts Init=true
> KNotify Init=true
> Use Arts=true
>
> I then tested the sound in Konsole, and sure enough, there was none.
> So, what do I do?  Open knotify AGAIN and low and behold, its set to
> false!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  So, I set it again thinking maybe I didnt
> save the file.  Repeat, and whatya know, its False again!.  So this
> time, I get pissed and chown it to root, use root to change the file,
> test the sound again, and guess what happens.  I get this window from
> KNotify saying that it cant write to the knotifyrc file.  So I say to
> myself GOOD YOU LOUSY NO GOOD PIECE OF *****, you shouldnt be writting
> to it!  Then, right after I close that window, I HEARD THE KONSOLE
> SYSTEM NOTIFICATION SOUND!!  I'm like OMG
> WTF$%^*@#*$%^&*^#$%%^#@!T$%&^T&^%&
>
> Now, why in the world is Knotify turning its self off when I just proved
> to it that that sound WAS on?  Is there a bug about this anywhere on the
> KDE site?  Because if there isnt, there should be.  It's been like this
> for me from version 3.0 to 3.5 and it's never once been fixed in KDE.
> Is it just me and my clients, or does everyone else have this problem?
> And DO NOT tell me that the fix for it is to just change the
> permissions, that's the stupidest response ever.  If you do that, then
> every time you login to KDE, you'll be greeted with an error window, and
> when you are one of my clients, you dont like error windows because they
> are scary.  There has to be an option somewhere where you can set it to
> NOT write to the file at all, or at least tell you that its going to do
> so and give you a chance to tell it that it's full of **** and doesnt
> know what its doing, and give you the chance to skip the write process.
>
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