No Sound KDE
Frank
frank at snapafun.co.nz
Wed Oct 22 11:01:10 BST 2003
Thank you all and especially you Lauri. I am now happily listening to my
Rock'n'Roll music CD's as I write this.
Thanks
--
Regards
Frank
Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve.
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Lauri Watts wrote:
>On Wednesday 15 October 2003 12.56, Frank wrote:
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>>Thanks again Scott, I do appreciate you guys making sure I fully
>>understand.
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>>That the 'cables' have come loose since the "ram dump" might be a
>>possibility,
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>>But when I can read data CDs and burn data CDs [ I use cdrecord from the
>>konsole for that ] then I doubt there are any physical problems going
>>on. Yes I have tested these CDs as they are ISO's for other OSs that can
>>be run from CDs, and they run very well as well. Now, they do not run
>>from the hard drive. {eg. Knoppix3.2 ]
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>
>CD-Rom drives have a data cable (the wide flat grey one generally, or maybe a
>fat round coloured one) to the motherboard, over which data is transferred.
>They also contain internal hardware and firmware that allow them to play
>audio discs. Audio CD discs and Data CD-Rom discs conform to entirely
>different standards, and are handled very differently by different hardware,
>that just happens to be wrapped up in the same drive.
>
>Traditionally, Audio CD requires no data transfer, and does not use the data
>cable, your CPU, or anything else in your computer. What it do is hijack
>your soundcard's outputs, and the mixer, via a second small grey wire that
>goes directly from your CD-Rom drive to your soundcard.
>
>This is why CD Drives have controls on the front, and why those controls do
>anything at all, because all you need is for the machine to be powered on,
>because the drive itself plays the audio CD.
>
>Here's where it gets muddy: Recently (in the last ~2 or 3 years at most)
>CD-Rom manufacturers have been saving money by leaving out this built-in
>capability, or in very many cases, by still providing the capability in the
>drive but by not bothering with cabling the drive to the sound card directly.
>Coincidentally (or not) recent versions (of similar vintage) of Windows Media
>Player play CD's by digital extraction *over the data cable*, incidentally
>permitting copy protection schemes and other shiny happy things to be put in
>place. In effect, whenever you listen to an audio cd with WMP, it is ripping
>it on the fly and playing the resulting data.
>
>So to summarise, the ability to play audio cd's in windows, and to play data
>cd's in any OS, or being able to rip audio cd's (which is data extraction),
>really has little to do with the ability of non-Windows OS to play Audio CD's
>directly. If you can do all the above but *not* play audio cd's, it's
>extremely likely that what you're missing is tiny cable that runs from the
>back of your hard drive to your sound card, and nothing more.
>
>All of this is very confusing however, because, you initially mentioned sound,
>and then switched to talking about ISO's of other OS'es. Which, of course,
>are perfectly ordinary data cd's and have nothing to do with sound at all.
>
>Regards,
>
>
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