language choice

[Albert Astals Cid]

El dimecres, 7 de maig del 2025, a les 17:55:02 (Hora d’estiu d’Europa 
central), Paul Brown va escriure:
> On Wednesday, 7 May 2025 17:43:26 Central European Summer Time Albert Astals
> Cid wrote:
> > El dimecres, 7 de maig del 2025, a les 13:26:21 (Hora d’estiu d’Europa
> > 
> > central), Paul Brown va escriure:
> > > On Wednesday, 7 May 2025 12:24:54 Central European Summer Time a a 
wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > You may wish to note that proposing the Valencian dialect of Catalan
> > > > is
> > > > not
> > > > helpful in carbon emissions terms as it is virtually identical to the
> > > > Barcelona Catalan which I imagine "Catalan" refers to. 100% of its
> > > > speakers
> > > > are fluent in both dialects. As yet there is no version proposed for
> > > > Yorkshire dialect or Australian English! I suspect there is some
> > > > Spanish
> > > > political aim here in proposing Valencian which has NEVER been a
> > > > language
> > > > whereas CATALAN IS!
> > > 
> > > Wow! You definitely got some hate agenda going on there. As a
> > > half-Valencian (the good half), I find your email highly offensive.
> > > 
> > > You are also way off: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idioma_valenciano
> > 
> > I specially don't disagree with you, but, for what is worth, using the
> > Spanish wikipedia for anything related to Catalan is just worthless, their
> > anti- catalanism shines in every corner.
> 
> Huh. This reference good enough for you?
> 
> https://dogv.gva.es/datos/2006/04/11/pdf/2006_4177.pdf
> 
> Page 2 paragraph 2. Or maybe it is not a legitimate enough document for you
> either.

What part of "I don't disagree with you" did not understand?

> > > But, if it is practicalities and the lack of efficiency you are worried
> > > about, I guess we could argue that 100% of speakers from Catalunya are
> > > also
> > > probably fluent in Castilian Spanish so let's get rid of the Catalán
> > > translations too, right? But why stop there? Galician and Euskera have
> > > to
> > > go as well, as long as we are on that roll.
> > 
> > You know that there are hundreds of thousands of people that understand
> > Catalan and don't understand Spanish, right?
> 
> You do realise I am just applying OP's bullshit logic, right?

Yes, and you failed.

OP logic is that since everyone that understands Catalan understands Valencian 
we should not have Valencian translations. OP is correct in that everyone that 
understands Catalan understands Valencian since they are the same language, OP 
is incorrect in that there is no reason to not have translations to both.

You tried to say that since everyone that understands Catalan also understands 
Spanish we should not have Valencian translations. But since that fact is not 
correct, that logic does not make any sense.

Best Regards,
  Albert

> 
> Paul