A change of heart

[David Wright]

Hi Ben,

Were you looking at: http://codex.wordpress.org/Create_A_Network ?

No matter really for the time being anyway. I'll go through the dns list
over the next week and create a google docs spreadsheet with my findings,
opinions and suggestions and we can take it from there.

Have a good weekend!

Kind regards,

David.



On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 12:38 AM, Ben Cooksley <bcooksley at kde.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 11:30 AM,  <david.wright12886 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi David, I've looked at the software you linked to, and am a bit
> >> underwhelmed.
> >>
> >> However, your concern seems like a good one, and I've heard various
> >> efforts towards the same goal. Rather than looking at a 'website in a
> >> box' I think we should back up, and look at the goal, think about how
> >> best to meet it, and then craft the KDE.org website and the rest of
> >> our public-facing tech to support that.
> >>
> >> Our Forums are working really well, as are the wikis. IRC and mail
> >> lists seem to be ticking along well too. There has been some
> >> discussion about tuning the Help > About KDE message on every KDE
> >> application. We're the largest or one of the largest participants in
> >> both GSoC and GCi. We do some active outreach in quite a few tech
> >> conferences and other meetings. We've got great blogs and other
> >> writing, including at least two books.
> >>
> >> However, I think we all know that we need to do more to get KDE
> >> software users more involved in the community, and yes, supporting us
> >> with their money too.
> >>
> >> So the question is, how can we build on the great infrastructure we
> >> already have? Surely the main KDE.org can use some freshening, and
> >> honing. How about getting involved in doing that work? The www team
> >> has lost some momentum lately, and could use your energy and
> >> enthusiasm.
> >>
> >> I think we are poised for a lot of growth in the next year, as our new
> >> frameworks and beautiful new Plasma work become more widely adopted.
> >> It would be great if our user infra was ready for the new visitors.
> >>
> >> Valorie
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> kde-www mailing list
> >> kde-www at kde.org
> >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-www
> >
> > Hi Valorie,
>
> Hi David,
>
> >
> > Yes, the commons is not a magic bullet, but it does tick all the right
> boxes
> > compared to similar systems. It is still relatively young technology at
> the
> > moment though, so I wouldn't write it off completely. It might be wise
> to set
> > off in a direction that could be changed to such a setup in a couple of
> years
> > time once it has matured.
> >
> > I hope you can appreciate however what it aims to achieve, and that is to
> > unify the online image of the organisation. That's what KDE desperately
> needs
> > at the moment, unification and simplification. It is a bit of a hopping
> game at
> > the moment to find information you need.
>
> This is primarily because www.kde.org itself is out of date, and
> information has become spread across various wikis and sub-domains.
>
> >
> > Things like 'groups' are very useful though as they can become the
> central
> > location for help and information on topics. You could have for example a
> > 'Plasmoid Development' group, for those interested in such things. At the
> > moment you're on your own really to find this information out, you'll
> probably
> > start at the wiki, then maybe hit the forums, or irc once you can't find
> the
> > information you need, or maybe you'll just give up (and I'm sure some
> do). A
> > central group would hopefully solve some of these issues. You can also
> have
> > group events, which opens the door to self organised workshops or
> meetups, or
> > maybe just a weekend wiki 'spring clean' event. Or course it would take
> > someone with a bit of passion and motivation to step up and organise
> things
> > like that, but this at least provides to platform for it to be possible.
> >
> > Certainly the multi-site (or multi-blog) element of the commons setup is
> > something that KDE should really do (it uses wpmu which is how
> wordpress.com
> > works basically). It goes a long way address the unification issues that
> there
> > are at the moment. Ideally I'd like to have a separate site for each of
> the
> > main applications and projects, with all the vital statistics and
> appropriate
> > links listed. It also means that if someone with a real interest in that
> > particular software wants to change or add things to the content, they
> can be
> > given access to just that particular site, rather than being allowed to
> run
> > riot on the whole lot.
>
> WPMU is slightly flawed however as it basically expects to control
> either a single domain and use paths beneath that, or have control
> over a whole section of a domain (at least according to their
> documentation). Control over the whole domain is something which is
> incompatible with the way kde.org is managed.
>
> >
> > I would also like to setup a job board. Even if it's just listed with
> > 'experienced C++ devs needed' at the start. I feel some people may be
> more
> > comfortable with a more formal approach to the process, and to be
> contact and
> > talked to about what they'd like to contribute to and how to go about
> it. It
> > could be worded along the lines of, 'if you want to get stuck in visit
> here,
> > or if you'd like a speak to a friendly advisor apply here."? I wonder
> whether
> > this kind of system would be more female friendly as well?
> >
> > I have lots of ideas really. But for them to be possible it would
> require that
> > initial shift in direction. The current infrastructure is one of
> necessity;
> > things have been added as and when they have been needed, it's fairly
> clear to
> > see. So perhaps the first thing to do is to take stock of the current
> situation
> > and see where we can consolidate and change, and what will need to stay
> the
> > same (such as the forum and wikis).
> >
> > Is there a list anywhere of all the active *.kde.org subdomains? Or is
> someone
> > able to send me a copy? I can go through it then and produce a proper
> action
> > plan.
>
> Please see git://anongit.kde.org/sysadmin/dns.git. You can also access
> this through projects.kde.org or quickgit.kde.org.
> We have a huge number of subdomains, and far too many outdated subdomains.
>
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > David.
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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