<div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Hi Ben, </span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Were you looking at: <a href="http://codex.wordpress.org/Create_A_Network">http://codex.wordpress.org/Create_A_Network</a> ? </font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">No matter really for the time being anyway. I'll go through the dns list over the next week and create a google docs spreadsheet with my findings, opinions and suggestions and we can take it from there.</font><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"> </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Have a good weekend!</span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Kind regards, </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">David.</span></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 12:38 AM, Ben Cooksley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bcooksley@kde.org" target="_blank">bcooksley@kde.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 11:30 AM, <<a href="mailto:david.wright12886@gmail.com">david.wright12886@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hi David, I've looked at the software you linked to, and am a bit<br>
>> underwhelmed.<br>
>><br>
>> However, your concern seems like a good one, and I've heard various<br>
>> efforts towards the same goal. Rather than looking at a 'website in a<br>
>> box' I think we should back up, and look at the goal, think about how<br>
>> best to meet it, and then craft the KDE.org website and the rest of<br>
>> our public-facing tech to support that.<br>
>><br>
>> Our Forums are working really well, as are the wikis. IRC and mail<br>
>> lists seem to be ticking along well too. There has been some<br>
>> discussion about tuning the Help > About KDE message on every KDE<br>
>> application. We're the largest or one of the largest participants in<br>
>> both GSoC and GCi. We do some active outreach in quite a few tech<br>
>> conferences and other meetings. We've got great blogs and other<br>
>> writing, including at least two books.<br>
>><br>
>> However, I think we all know that we need to do more to get KDE<br>
>> software users more involved in the community, and yes, supporting us<br>
>> with their money too.<br>
>><br>
>> So the question is, how can we build on the great infrastructure we<br>
>> already have? Surely the main KDE.org can use some freshening, and<br>
>> honing. How about getting involved in doing that work? The www team<br>
>> has lost some momentum lately, and could use your energy and<br>
>> enthusiasm.<br>
>><br>
>> I think we are poised for a lot of growth in the next year, as our new<br>
>> frameworks and beautiful new Plasma work become more widely adopted.<br>
>> It would be great if our user infra was ready for the new visitors.<br>
>><br>
>> Valorie<br>
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> Hi Valorie,<br>
<br>
</div></div>Hi David,<br>
<div class=""><br>
><br>
> Yes, the commons is not a magic bullet, but it does tick all the right boxes<br>
> compared to similar systems. It is still relatively young technology at the<br>
> moment though, so I wouldn't write it off completely. It might be wise to set<br>
> off in a direction that could be changed to such a setup in a couple of years<br>
> time once it has matured.<br>
><br>
> I hope you can appreciate however what it aims to achieve, and that is to<br>
> unify the online image of the organisation. That's what KDE desperately needs<br>
> at the moment, unification and simplification. It is a bit of a hopping game at<br>
> the moment to find information you need.<br>
<br>
</div>This is primarily because <a href="http://www.kde.org" target="_blank">www.kde.org</a> itself is out of date, and<br>
information has become spread across various wikis and sub-domains.<br>
<div class=""><br>
><br>
> Things like 'groups' are very useful though as they can become the central<br>
> location for help and information on topics. You could have for example a<br>
> 'Plasmoid Development' group, for those interested in such things. At the<br>
> moment you're on your own really to find this information out, you'll probably<br>
> start at the wiki, then maybe hit the forums, or irc once you can't find the<br>
> information you need, or maybe you'll just give up (and I'm sure some do). A<br>
> central group would hopefully solve some of these issues. You can also have<br>
> group events, which opens the door to self organised workshops or meetups, or<br>
> maybe just a weekend wiki 'spring clean' event. Or course it would take<br>
> someone with a bit of passion and motivation to step up and organise things<br>
> like that, but this at least provides to platform for it to be possible.<br>
><br>
> Certainly the multi-site (or multi-blog) element of the commons setup is<br>
> something that KDE should really do (it uses wpmu which is how <a href="http://wordpress.com" target="_blank">wordpress.com</a><br>
> works basically). It goes a long way address the unification issues that there<br>
> are at the moment. Ideally I'd like to have a separate site for each of the<br>
> main applications and projects, with all the vital statistics and appropriate<br>
> links listed. It also means that if someone with a real interest in that<br>
> particular software wants to change or add things to the content, they can be<br>
> given access to just that particular site, rather than being allowed to run<br>
> riot on the whole lot.<br>
<br>
</div>WPMU is slightly flawed however as it basically expects to control<br>
either a single domain and use paths beneath that, or have control<br>
over a whole section of a domain (at least according to their<br>
documentation). Control over the whole domain is something which is<br>
incompatible with the way <a href="http://kde.org" target="_blank">kde.org</a> is managed.<br>
<div class=""><br>
><br>
> I would also like to setup a job board. Even if it's just listed with<br>
> 'experienced C++ devs needed' at the start. I feel some people may be more<br>
> comfortable with a more formal approach to the process, and to be contact and<br>
> talked to about what they'd like to contribute to and how to go about it. It<br>
> could be worded along the lines of, 'if you want to get stuck in visit here,<br>
> or if you'd like a speak to a friendly advisor apply here."? I wonder whether<br>
> this kind of system would be more female friendly as well?<br>
><br>
> I have lots of ideas really. But for them to be possible it would require that<br>
> initial shift in direction. The current infrastructure is one of necessity;<br>
> things have been added as and when they have been needed, it's fairly clear to<br>
> see. So perhaps the first thing to do is to take stock of the current situation<br>
> and see where we can consolidate and change, and what will need to stay the<br>
> same (such as the forum and wikis).<br>
><br>
> Is there a list anywhere of all the active *.<a href="http://kde.org" target="_blank">kde.org</a> subdomains? Or is someone<br>
> able to send me a copy? I can go through it then and produce a proper action<br>
> plan.<br>
<br>
</div>Please see git://<a href="http://anongit.kde.org/sysadmin/dns.git" target="_blank">anongit.kde.org/sysadmin/dns.git</a>. You can also access<br>
this through <a href="http://projects.kde.org" target="_blank">projects.kde.org</a> or <a href="http://quickgit.kde.org" target="_blank">quickgit.kde.org</a>.<br>
We have a huge number of subdomains, and far too many outdated subdomains.<br>
<br>
><br>
> Kind regards,<br>
><br>
> David.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Ben<br>
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