Draft message to Community ML - comments, please

[Ingo Malchow]

Am Mittwoch, 7. August 2013, 11:08:56 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
> On Tuesday 06 August 2013 06:51:32 Gérard Talbot wrote:
> > > On Monday 05 August 2013 15:13:32 Frederik Schwarzer wrote:
> > >> Hi,
> > >> 
> > >> I would only ban him after telling him that what he does is considered
> > >> harmful. Maybe he is not aware of the consequences for others.
> > > 
> > > I am assuming people talked to him. If so, I suggest to mail the cwg
> > > team
> > > about it and block him as proposed by Ann. The CWG can handle it further
> > > (tell
> > > him about the why etc etc).
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > J
> > > 
> > >> Regards
> > >> 
> > >> On 5 August 2013 13:04, Ben Cooksley <bcooksley at kde.org> wrote:
> > >> > On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Anne Wilson <annew at kde.org> wrote:
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> > >> > > Some time ago a user started a page on http://community.kde.org on
> > >> > > which he detailed things that he considered to be wrong with KDE
> > >> > > software.  The comments were largely subjective, and in many cases
> > >> > > demonstrated things that were not the general experience.  At that
> > >> > > point he was asked to substantiate his complaints by pointing to
> > >> > > bug
> > >> > > reports.
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > That strategy backfired, as he then began creating a barrage of bug
> > >> > > reports, creating a good deal of work for triagers who have to
> > >> 
> > >> decide
> > >> 
> > >> > > whether the report is a duplicate of some other, or invalid for any
> > >> > > reason.  Up to now people have been very patient with him, but it
> > >> 
> > >> has
> > >> 
> > >> > > come to our notice that he has crossed a line.
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > He has now begun defacing other pages, adding links to his comments
> > >> > > page and/or his bug reports.  This basically results in what should
> > >> 
> > >> be
> > >> 
> > >> > > "official" information, posted by developers of the application in
> > >> > > question, being questionable, in that the reader cannot easily
> > >> > > differentiate his input.
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > In view of this we have reached the point where we believe that he
> > >> > > should be banned from posting on the wikis, and his comments
> > >> > > completely removed.
> > 
> > I also believe he should be banned from posting on the wikis and I also
> > believe that his comments should be completely removed. The sanction fits
> > the offense. So, I fully support such sanction.
> > 
> > I also believe he should no longer be able to create bug reports for, say,
> > at least 1 year.
> 
> I'd say - let's see if he gets the message and learns. If he does, no reason
> to punish him further.

Seconded. A ban is -like in this case- not only a restrictive measure, but 
also an educational one, and to enable other contributors to continue in their 
intended workflow until a certain agreement is found.
> 
> > Just my opinion.
> > 
> > Gérard Talbot
> > 
> > >> > The users conduct in this case basically constitutes a violation of
> > >> > the code of conduct, so this has my full support.
> > >> > 
> > >> > > Anne Wilson
> > >> > > annew at kde.org
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> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> > Ben
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