Structure of our websites (in CVS + on the servers)

[Christoph Cullmann]

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Hi,
as Neil allready was much faster than I (thx ;) to answer many question, here 
some statements from me:

1) Neil is right, acls are directory based in CVS www module

2) yeah, I want that *.kde.org is accessible through www.kde.org/apps/* or
www.kde.org/areas/* (apps in apps, areas like printing, multimedia, usability 
in areas subdir of www), some links need to be fixed, but that needs to be 
done anyway (for example, even atm multimedia.kde.org is accessible through 
www.kde.org/multimedia, but if you use the last url, all links are borked (as 
the use absolute links like /contact.php in relation to multimedia.kde.org), 
that should be changed to relative links for all *.kde.org pages, as it is 
just awful to find a page via google and just get it broken because you 
entered in the wrong place.

3) it will break some links, for sure, but
    a) the *.kde.org domains will stay, which is the place most people  
         remember
    b) if we have cleaned up, moved all stuff on the same server (or at least 
        as if it is in one dir structure) and have cleanly separated the apps 
        in the apps subdir + areas in the area subdir we should be able to let 
        this structure live on for year, the current mess won't support that 
        long term planning ;)

4) as Rainer (which does and will help a lot both in planing + actually 
implementing ;) mentioned, that is not a pet project of myself ;) On 
kde-core-devel I asked if there is interest in new kde.org design + 
structural cleanups some time ago, that was accepted and I will try to manage 
this efforts to get the thing rolling on, which will not mean that I will 
"kick" any existing admin/maintainer from his page, atm my job is to mail 
around like a furry to all of them to request the movements of their cvs 
dirs, to talk to them why do it, ... That is now fun work, just dumb writing 
;)

Some notes again to the structural changes ;)

www/"appname" -> www/apps/"appname"
www/"areaname" -> www/areas/"areaname"
"areaname".kde.org cvs module -> www/areas/"areaname" (but that won't be that 
easy, needs more work as *.kde.org modules are atm at ktown, www module not,
btw. why ? traffic ? mess ?)

As seen I want to collect all www.kde.org pages under www module (with right 
directory acls), that will make life much easier to get structure into it, 
later I would like to see that the translated pages for www.kde.de, 
www.kde.il, ... would be moved to a seperate www-i18n module (like the 
kde-i18n module) or into www-"isocode" modules, or at least consistent under 
www/"isocode", as it is down by many big pages, too (or 
www/international/"isocode")

The app people I allready written mails, waiting for answer, got the first ok 
from kooka and the first "be possible" from koffice.

The area guys I will mail later after some apps have settled (btw. Neil, are 
you the multimedia.kde.org maintainer, just found no note who is it :P ?)

cu
Christoph

P.S.
Will take a look at your design Neil, just after writing that mail ;) And 
btw., think you the www/kde-ev should move to www/areas/kde-ev, as you seem 
to maintain that page, or should we let it live where it is as the kde-ev is 
integral part of kde project ?

- -- 
Christoph Cullmann
Kate/KDE developer
cullmann at kde.org
http://kate.kde.org
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