NWI: hollow apps

[Matthew Woehlke]

Maciej Pilichowski wrote:
> On Tuesday 17 March 2009 19:31:48 Matthew Woehlke wrote:
> [other stuff about empty space]
>> not very consistent with how docking usually works.
> 
> True. Btw. I wasn't thinking about it as replacement of docking. Only 
> as another way to do grouping.

Sure; my thought was more that it should work /like/ docking, in terms 
of drag-and-drop windows into the container. In which case I don't see 
why you need the empty space.

- Start apps
- Make tiled container
- Move second app into container -> container automatically re-layouts

Still three steps :-). (Also with the benefit you don't have to select 
first the app you want for left, you can start at either.)

>> For tab container a one-window container just shows a tab bar,
>> though, so that is probably fine.
> 
> There is no guarantee for tab. Konq. from the start is TDI application 
> and it could be configured as "do not show tabbar for single tab" (I 
> don't use it).

Right. Sorry for being unclear; the point was there is already a 
paradigm for making it obvious something is now a tab container. 
(Especially if the tabs and titlebar blend together, in which case I 
don't expect we'll really have a "don't show tabs" mode.)

> The most important for me is the idea, or mechanism, of sucking
> application on start to container waiting for it -- so it would be
> grouping on launch.

Mmm... okay, I think I was missing this part. It should still be 
do-able, though. I think I would say, after creating a container, new 
windows auto-join that container until focus leaves that container? But 
that might confuse some people, I wonder if it should be made an option...

> As we discussed before if you drop app on app there will be some (may
> be some) ambiguity (phew, no error while typing)  what your
> intentions are -- are you dropping for making container or you
> dropping by accident

I am assuming D&D doesn't create containers that don't already exist? 
Maybe I need to go re-read the old thread :-).

> or you dropping for some action related to target app not 
> container.

AFAIK you cannot currently D&D titlebars, so I don't think there is 
ambiguity :-).

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