Fwd: Adding "group/split" button to the decoration

[Maciej Pilichowski]

On Wednesday 08 July 2009 20:41:33 Diego Moya wrote:

> 2009/7/8 Maciej Pilichowski:
> > On Wednesday 08 July 2009 00:26:03 Matthew Woehlke wrote:
> >> What is "current container"?
> >
> > Container which is active, has focus (i.e. app inside has focus).
> >
> >> Or would this be a button on a
> >> container to absorb a window (with second click)?
> >
> > Exactly.
>
> - Does the user have to remember the current "state"?  (Clicking
> anywhere than on the second window cancels the operation, and
> there's not a visual clue of this mode)

There is hollow pane shown so it is hard to miss it.

> - How many clicks to use?

+1, activate grouping
+2, add window (ctrl+LMB)

total = 3.

> - 2nd window. Press "groupize" icon, app gets added to the hollow
> application hole.

Cannot do this because of the ambiguity. "Groupize" means create start 
creating group -- not add to the group.

> - 3rd, 4th, 8th windows... added to the container with one click
> each.

Cannot do this. Regular operations, like bring window to front, should 
be possible.

> Their decorations all get the same color. 

The idea was to get them immediately to container.

> - To split one window from the container, press its

Broken sentence.

> - To split all windows in the container, press the container's
> "split" button. Windows get free, but remain color-coded.
> - To group all 8 windows again, press any of their "group" icons.

What is the purpose of it?

> - To destroy the container in a permanent way, press its "close"
> button. Windows get free and lose their color coding.

No, close should close container with applications as well. If you 
want to ungroup, then ungroup.

Symbols should not change their meaning.

> > What about "virtual groups", do you think that is a good idea or
> > not? I lean toward "not", seems like it has potential to be
> > confusing. (Well, unless implemented as 'undo WM action' ;-).)
>
> I think it's a good idea because it allows you to split-regroup all
> windows with a single click, just like a maximize-restore
> operation. 

If you want to regroup, you regroup, if you want to tear off any 
window, you can do this too. I still don't see a point. Do you have 
any scenario in mind?

> This is useful to switch focus between just one app and 
> all apps in the group.

? You mean all apps at the same time have focus? 

Cheers,