[ADMIN] Moving on.

[Thomas Zander]

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On Saturday 10 July 2004 17:30, Frans Englich wrote:
> That approach won't work. There is no Usability Experts -- how would you
> distinguish "them"? By education? What if we did the same on the lists
> that concerns programming/c++? I'm sorry, but this sounds medieval,
> elitistic and practically impossible.

I probably explained it poorly that you still seem to think that; this is 
not what this list has been about; ever.

This list has always been as open to occasional posters as it was to the 
external experts. The only reason we call them usability experts is 
because these people do it for a living. Nothing else.
Each and every post has been held to the same standards of being suitable, 
on topic and clear of rambling.  Until I removed the modaration two weeks 
ago. All people I notified about their post being innapropriate in one way 
or another have re-posted with these points being fixed. Well; I won't 
count yours from last year keeping me from a perfect track record :)

You seem to know what should be done and how others should behave in order 
to get things running; but from where I am standing you are not practicing 
what you are preaching. Your posts are only complaining, without providing 
any realistic solutions and you are making assumptions about things you 
seem to know to little about, or at least you forget to argue your point 
entirely.

To answer your complaint that this list could apparently not provide any 
extra's the kde-usability list offers;
usability takes lots of knowledge, experience and practice in fields like 
psychology, design and even programming.
Having all those qualifications in no way guarantees any success or even 
good designs; the only thing that can guarantee long term success is doing 
usability-tests.  The external experts have a unique position to actually 
do such a thing and give advice based on that which is infinitely more 
important then your or mine 'expert' opinions.

If nothing else; this list was there to connect those experts with the 
actual developers of many open-source based applications.

I have little respect for posts like yours, I'd like to stay constructive.
Or as my boss would always say: "If you see a problem; don't come to me 
without a proposal."

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Thomas Zander
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