Testing report and improvement suggestions

Anne-Marie Mahfouf annemarie.mahfouf at free.fr
Tue Jun 12 08:10:26 UTC 2012


On 06/11/2012 05:16 PM, Janek Bevendorff wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> You asked for feedback, well, you get it. :-)
>
> Good things first. we have IRC. That's very important, especially when
> we want to get new beta testers. It is not the easiest thing to
> integrate oneself into such a huge project, so the best way to get to
> know the people, the structures, the habits, the rules and and policies
> is to have nice people around which can help you in any regard. Although
> many questions might be more or less stupid in the beginning, it's
> important to ask and answer them directly. The more we can clarify at an
> early stage the less is done wrongly later on.
>
> Communication in general is very important. There is obviously no
> efficient workflow without constant communication, so we need to keep
> communicating with each other constantly. But that also brings me to the
> not so good part:
>
> We need to incorporate more devs. There should be more of them coming to
> the #kde-quality IRC channel, for instance. Of course they have limited
> time and already spend much of it on the programming stuff, but just
> lurking around there and reading a bit of what we do and maybe having
> some short discussion about some areas to test, things that could be
> done better in program X, our opinion of something they recently did
> etc. would be very helpful for both sides, I think.
> It would also be helpful if we had some clear lists of areas that
> changed during the last releases. Yes, we need more checklists and the
> people who know the recent changes best are of course the devs.
> A central place where they can drop things they want us to test would be
> a huge efficiency improvement of the quality assurance work we do.
> Always just reading the plain git commit logs for each and every product
> is very cumbersome if not impossible and costs us much time we should
> better invest in other areas.
>
> Other than that I can just agree on what Maarten said before. :-)
>
>
> Best regards
> Janek
Thanks both of you for the useful reports. I am writing a summary on 
what we did for this testing phase and what problems we faced which I'll 
make available somewhere and which can be improved and discussed at 
Akademy. I included your feedback!

In fact it would be good to propagate such a document within KDE when 
it's polished, after the 4.9 release.

Best regards,

Anne-Marie


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