[Bug 294151] Unable to select an alternate port for GTalk, which causes problems when trying to bypass company firewalls.

[J Janz]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=294151

--- Comment #4 from J Janz <kde at juniorjanz.net> ---
(In reply to comment #2)
> Just to clarify, can you add information about the server that you are using?
> Anyway, you can always use jabber instead if you need to set all the
> parameters, gmail and facebook accounts are just "shortcuts" to add the
> account quickly

I'm sorry for being late on answering. The deal is that not only the port is
443 to bypass company's firewall but we also have to set server to
alt3.xmpp.l.google.com . There were already some other servers we had to use,
and this is why it'd be good for an end user to be able to override server
information. That way, s/he'd still had no need to know what's jabber and that
google uses it, s/he'd just add a google profile and override default server
information.

(In reply to comment #1)
> In Kopete you have no concept of "Gmail" or "Facebook".
> 
> There you create a standard Jabber account, and you can "override the server
> information" to specify server is different from the username at server.com in
> your account ID. Which is exactly the same as normal jabber profile and  our
> "advanced settings".
> 
> So this isn't a regression from Kopete, we just add easy access to the 99%
> of users who do want the defaults.
> 
> Besides, if you changed the server to "chat.facebook.com" it's not GTalk
> anymore. 
> 
> Personally I think making it editable is redundant for most people and goes
> against the point of profiles making things simple for the vast majority of
> users and being settings /we/ define. If people want something different to
> a profile they can simply not use a profile and use the standard Jabber
> account, and it's no harder for them than if we didn't have the profiles.

Yes, it's no regretion from kopete and I haven't said that. I said profiles are
far from being new stuff, as pidgin has them quite a while, and there they're
configurable. Why? Because of what was just said above: this is the use for
profiles and why profiles would not be useless if user could change them for
one account: because they make things fast and *easy* for those 99% who can
take the default. And this exact thought is also why overriding those settings
would be good, for people who knows nothing about technical details (they won't
ever want to add jabber accounts but google's -- so who's gonna explain it, if
there's anyone to?), they just need a tweak for it to "just work"(TM).

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