Plasmoid presence setting and displaying

[Francesco Nwokeka]

On Friday 27 May 2011 12:12:09 David Edmundson wrote:
> 2011/5/27 Martin Klapetek <martin.klapetek at gmail.com>
> 
> > 2011/5/27 David Edmundson <david at davidedmundson.co.uk>
> > 
> >> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Francesco Nwokeka <
> >> 
> >> francesco.nwokeka at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Thursday 26 May 2011 17:00:32 Lukas wrote:
> >>> > Unified setting is the best.
> >>> 
> >>> Depends. How I see it, it's the easiest. But yeah, if I have more than
> >>> one account, I might want to
> >>> go online all at once. With this solution we could solve the problem
> >>> for status reading "on-the-fly"
> >>> by changing the taskbar icon (don't know if that's possible with
> >>> plasmoids).
> >>> But what if I want to go online with just one account?
> >> 
> >> Nwoki did you see how the old plasmoid worked? there was an entry for
> >> each account then one for "All accounts". Not sure how this could work
> >> for the contact list. I don't really like having a mix.
> >> 
> >> There are two questions to deal with when it comes to global presence:
> >>    How do we decide which is the 'current' presence to show to a user.
> >>    
> >>    What would we do if I set one account to 'away' and then all of them
> >>    to
> >> 
> >> 'available' does the first one change?
> >> 
> >> Personally I'm all for connecting them to the same global presence and
> >> getting rid of per-account statuses. What sort of nutter would claim to
> >> be away in one place but not another, but if you take away the options
> >> some users will complain loudly. Users love complaining.
> >> 
> >>> > If someone want to hide from any specific network, he could create
> >>> > exception rules in the config wizzard (like checking - do not use
> >>> 
> >>> global
> >>> 
> >>> > status, always use the one i typed bellow). That's it, funny mesages
> >>> 
> >>> wont
> >>> 
> >>> > be displayed on work account :)
> >> 
> >> Not in this release - we have no mechanism to store extra metadata on an
> >> account (and there's no point making one till the nepomuk stuff comes in
> >> in the summer).
> >> 
> >> Also how would this work from a UI point of view, in the contact list
> >> having one button for every account except Facebook, and then one button
> >> for Facebook on it's own...I can't picture it in a non-confusing way.
> >> 
> >> Empathy gets by simply by having the global presence and being able to
> >> "disable" accounts.
> > 
> > I was thinking about that - I propose an option to either show a global
> > presence setting or per account setting in contact list. So instead of
> > all those buttons, there would be a drop-down menu. This should be
> > rather easy to do so. I think.
> 
> +1 from me.
> 
> Only thing to consider is that if we put all the accounts online and one of
> them failed due to a wrong password or network etc., we need a way to see
> it. So far the only method is the account buttons.

What if we added a "!" icon to the plasmoiod in the systray? If tha plasmoid were to be used on the 
desktop there would be no problem because the status i visible. But if it were in a tray we could 
have an icon called "kde-telepathy-warning" where we have a "!" to notify the user that something's 
wrong. What do you say?

This way we could go with global presence and have our nice set of icons for the presence status

> Would it make sense for nwoki's plasmoid to read the same config file and
> show either a single presence changer or one per account.
> 
> > --Marty