A couple of HIG questions regarding KDE Telepathy

Martin Klapetek martin.klapetek at gmail.com
Wed May 4 12:27:40 CEST 2011


2011/5/4 Francesco Nwokeka <francesco.nwokeka at gmail.com>

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> 2011/5/4 Martin Klapetek <martin.klapetek at gmail.com>
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>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 02:14, David Edmundson <david at davidedmundson.co.uk
>> > wrote:
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>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:05 PM, David Edmundson
>>> <david at davidedmundson.co.uk> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > On 3 May 2011 22:27, "Rohan Garg" <rohan16garg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi
>>> >> I've been working on improving the usability of KDE Telepathy a bit
>>> >> and recently made a couple of changes as to how one can set the IM
>>> >> Status.I'm attaching a image of my work, the image on the left
>>> >> represents the older GUI whereas the the one on the right shows the
>>> >> newer GUI [ yes, my GIMP skills are bad ;) ]
>>> >>
>>>
>>> That's looking good.
>>>
>>> >> Now, the main issue i am facing is that after i remove the radio
>>> >> buttons ( which in my opinion make the UI look cluttered ), how do i
>>> >> represent to the user that his current IM Status is, say Online?
>>>
>>> >> We
>>> >> discussed a couple of scenarios on IRC, like making the current status
>>> >> as Bold/Italics, or using a tick mark next to the current status,
>>> >> using a different highlight color etc but none of the ideas were
>>> >> satisfactory and had one issue or the other.
>>> >>
>>>
>>> What was wrong with each of those solutions? (especially the tick
>>> mark). Otherwise we'll just end up discussing the same ideas on the ML
>>> that you've already gone through on IRC. Also we might be able to come
>>> up with a fix for whatever problems you envisioned.
>>>
>>
>> Good point. The requirement is that once you open the presence menu, you
>> need to immediately see which presence is currently selected. This is now
>> met with the radios in place. The other options we discussed was these:
>>
>> - colored menu item - this might easily become wrong with different color
>> themes etc. And besides, colored item usualy indicates mouse hover or
>> general focus. So this might get rather confusing.
>>
>> - bold/italics/underline font - this is again very dependant on user's
>> font config. If the user has a font, which looks very similar in bold and
>> regular, then it is a problem. Counter-argument is, that it is a user's
>> problem. But, we're the ones doing things different here (than the rest of
>> KApps), so it is as well our problem. Underline/Italics are not that good
>> either (for obvious reasons? :)
>>
>> - tick symbol - if this is supposed to be on the left, then it is no
>> better than the radios. Solution would be to put this on the right, ie.
>> create a column there. This might work, the only problem I see with this is
>> that we need to be careful with i18n'd presence strings, as they can get
>> rather long and we currently use fixed width for the menu because of
>> text-eliding. Which actually brings me to thinking, that it's wrong and we
>> should rather let it paint and then only use the current width for the
>> text-eliding. Rohan, try to change it like that and test it. This would make
>> the right-column-tick possible.
>>
>> - toggle buttons - might work, but their projected use is not really the
>> menus.
>>
>> Other than that I can't remember anything else we discussed.
>>
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> How about the QToolButton::setDown(bool) method? we could set the status
> used by setting the toolbutton to setDown giving it an "engraved" look
>

Keep in mind, that we're in simple popup menu, with (preferably) simple
KActions.

--Marty


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