Antw: Re: [kde-solaris] KDE 3.3.0 Solaris 8 and 9 packages available

Stefan Teleman steleman at
Tue Sep 14 02:41:39 CEST 2004

I am going to reply to this in the open, because i do not want this to 
become "he said and then he said and then he said" ... and so on. 
This way, i am hoping to minimize misunderstandings.

I did not take anything from you, or anyone else. KDE 3.3 was 
officially released on August 19 of this year. The source was made 
available to the packagers, as always, before the official release 
date. If i remember correctly, i received the first email about 
source being available on August 12 of this year.

I created a directory named "Solaris" under stable/3.3/contrib on 
August 21, 2004. At that time i knew that i was going to build KDE 
for both Solaris 8 and 9. I also created a directory called 
"FORTE9BUILD", thinking i would put my packages there.

These directories stayed *empty* until September 11, 2004 early 
morning New York time. Funny, since i'm usually the one who is one 
month late building wth Forte. There were *no* other KDE packages 
under the Solaris directory tree. Since there was nothing there, i 
created two directories: one named "8" and one named "9", and removed 
the "FORTE9BUILD" directory because it served no purpose. And i 
uploaded the Solaris 8 packages in "8", and the Solaris 9 packages in 

I do not know, and cannot guess what other people's intentions are. 
Especially when these intentions are not stated. Up until today, i 
have received no indication whatsoever that you have ever tried to 
contact me. If it really is that difficult to get through 
RoadRunner's stupid spam filters, and you are really trying to email 
me, then you can certainly post a short message to that effect, on 
this list, or on other lists to which we both subscribe, and i will 
find a way for you to send me email. I have several private email 
addresses, and i can ask RoadRunner to unblock your domain, if it is 

On September 6 i posted a small pre-announcement to this list, about 
KDE packages for both Solaris 8 and 9. If there really was something 
you wanted to talk to me about, why didn't you try to contact me 
between that date, and September 12 ?

I have never prevented you, or anyone else, in _any_ way, from 
building KDE, or from uploading it anywhere. I never had, nor do i 
have now, such intention. At the same time, let me point out to you 
that none of us has a monopoly over directory naming conventions. If 
anything, the convention that packages for KDE on Solaris are stored 
in directories named after the Solaris major version number, was 
started by me, in 2003.



On Monday 13 September 2004 16:37, Sergio Rodriguez de Guzman Martinez 
> With the fact that you know we build the packages for solaris 9
> with gnu tools and you took the 9 directory... and more...
> It's hard to talk to you since your RBLs ISP is blocking about the
> 80% of all the mail generated from my country, and with such policy
> I suppose it'll block de 80% of Europe (really funny). I would
> prefer to talk you this matter directly. I do not like to publish
> this here.

Stefan Teleman          'Nobody Expects the Spanish Inquisition'
steleman at                          -Monty Python

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