The buzz about KDE 4.0
Kevin Krammer
kevin.krammer at gmx.at
Fri Jun 27 21:31:53 CEST 2008
On Friday 27 June 2008, Kimberly Lazarski wrote:
> KDE team: you might want to check out this thread: it touches on quite a
> few things I've been disappointed in when running KDE 4.0
>
> http://talkback.zdnet.com/5206-12554-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=49110
>
> KDE's growth may slow as a result of decisions made to dumb certain
> things down like gnome does. The whole reason I use KDE (3.x) rather
> than gnome is it doesn't cripple usability.
I think we can agree that the customizability of KDE is valued by quite a lot
of people, ranging from users over developers to sysadmins.
The perceived reduction of these options is mainly based on misunderstandings,
e.g. configuration done differently, configuration options not yet exposed
yet through a GUI, user visible parts of functionality not implemented yet,
etc.
Additionally a lot of KDE4 code is more open for alternative configuration
methods than comparable KDE3 code, i.e. traditional configuration dialogs
could most likely be done as an addon/plugin/extension.
This kind of flexibility is currently not as visible to users as it is to
developers, but once the knowledge about it spreads, other people than those
working on the default implementation can create and deploy alternative
feature sets without the need of a fork or from-scratch development.
Unfortunately these kind of architectural changes come with a price, either
delaying release and future development of "finished" parts until all
replacements reach feature parity or release some replacements with just a
feature subset.
Both options have their drawbacks and it is quite sad that those developers
who agreed to the release in favor of those who alredy had complete ports
take so much beating for not having reached their respective feature parity
yet.
No good deed goes unpunished :(
> (dolphin) is about as functional as gnome's nautilus. People in that
> thread accuse it of being as bad as Windows Explorer, but it has /less
> /functionality than Windows Explorer.
I have to admit that I don't have very recent experience with Windows
Explorer, but the one I used to use on Windows XP didn't even support KIO
like protocols.
> extremely capable and configurable. Also, I missed the desktop/folder
> metaphor. I put current and ongoing work on my desktop, and most other
> people I know (on Macs, Windows, and Linux) do the same. Taking that
> away was definitely a mistake. Does KDE4 still lack the
> desktop-as-a-folder metaphor?
Also a quite common misunderstanding.
Not porting the traditional implementation of a desktop handler (e.g. KDesktop
in KDE3) doesn't mean that the use case of using it as a kind of intermediate
storage has been abandoned, far from that.
Rather than "simply" porting the limited variant the developers decided to aim
for a solution which would allow the traditional usage but would also allow
new ones, e.g. showing results of search engine results.
Again it's quite sad that the *temporary* absence of some particular details
like fullscreen capability resulted in mudslinging.
> the modularity, configurability, and power KDE has given the users. If
> you must, dolphin and other apps can stay simple by default, but please
> make it possible for users to turn on power user options (such as an
> editable address bar, tabs, a built in terminal windows) people have
I am pretty sure the location bar is editable in the traditional sense,
the "bread crumbs" navigation is just one possible visualization.
> depended on for so long. I know konqueror is still there, but with two
> separate file managers there will be temptation to not keep konqueror's
> way of doing things up to date, leaving only a very limited file manager.
While it is most likely not as visible to users as it is to developers, the
way KDE's architecture and applications are designed allows allmost immediate
reuse of the simple variants features in the advanced variant and allows the
advanced variant's developers to concentrate on "their" features.
It is actually more taxing on the part of the simple variants developers
because the can not just implement a one-to-one mapping of their user
interface's capabilities but have to remember all implications the advanced
interface will introduce.
It takes very dedicated engineers like Dolphin's maintainer Peter Penz to go
this extra mile.
> I'm going to give KDE 4.0 another shot next weekend - Although I keep
> going back to OpenSuSE and KDE for desktop machines, I periodically
> evaluate different distros and desktops, but my first experience with
> KDE4 was a disappointment.
In this case I recommend not evaluating the same, feature frozen, version
again, since it is highly unlikely that much has changed (the sole purpose of
a freeze).
Cheers,
Kevin
--
Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer
KDE user support, developer mentoring
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