A look at GNOME 2.14, comparison to KDE

[Anders Storsveen]

Iñaki wrote:
> El Lunes, 20 de Febrero de 2006 18:54, Janne Ojaniemi escribió:
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>> - Konqueror has 4 borders separating the icons from each other. Nautilus
>> has one
>>
>> - For some weird reason, the content-area in Konqueror is framed (notice
>> the two dark-gray lines surrounding the content-area). Nautilus does not
>> have this framing.
>>
>> - Notice the lines and borders that separate the sidebar from the
>> content-area in Konqueror. Again, Nautilus does not have these.
>>
>> - Notice the multitude of lines and borders underneath the content-area in
>> Konqueror. Again, Nautilus does not have these.
>>
>> - Notice the KDE-icon in the top-right corner on Konqueror. Again, it has
>> lines and borders around it. Similar icon in Nautilus has no such lines.
>>
>> - Does the Location-bar in Konqueror REALLY need that border around it? No
>> it does not.
>>
>> Seriously, I have no idea why KDE insist that all UI-elements must be
>> framed inside lines and borders. It makes the UI look very unsmooth and
>> cluttered, while it serves no real purpose. And you can see these
>> differences everywhere in GNOME and KDE, so it's not only these two apps.
>>     
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> I completely agree with you.
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>> Other things to notice:
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>> - Konqueror has nine top-level menu's, Nautilus has six
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>> - Konqueror has 12 icons cramped closely together, Nautilus has 7 (9 if you
>> include the zoom/unzoom-icons) icons with lots of space between them.
>>     
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> The problem of whole KDE here is that all are icons and toolbars, all. So in 
> this way it's impossible to show a smoother style.
>
> See this preview of Windows Vista:
>   http://winvista.sinfreno.com/imagenes/winvista-6.jpeg
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> Look at the "Back" and "Forward" icons: they are toogether in a beautiful 
> style. Is something similar possible in KDE? I've never seen, all I see is 
> always an icon for each thing and the only extra-possibility is to set an 
> space or separator between two icons.
>
> This problem becomes bigger when using Kparts and the toolbar is modified (but 
> it looks similar) so the user simply doesn't understand what occurs. My 
> suggestion here is that each Kpart include its own toolbar that is different 
> from the Konqueror toolbar (the color, the icons size, it could be behind of 
> Konqueror toolbar...). The actual KDE mix both toolbars and for example, 
> using Kpdf embebed in Konqueror the user see in the same toolbar two "Back" 
> icons and two "Forward" icons (the first ones for the Konqueror navigation 
> and the last ones for Kpdf navigation). This is confusing, this is no user 
> friendly.
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>> - Notice the six icons in the sidebar in Konqueror. Nautilus does not have
>> them, but they seem to be using a drop-menu instead (the "Informacione").
>> Konqueror's implementation presents several UI-elements and makes the UI
>> look busy, whereas Nautilus's implementation has only one UI-element
>> visible, making the UI less cluttered.
>>     
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> I really don't like the Konqueror sidebar, is really neccesary the "amaroK" 
> tab in Konqueror??? or the "KDE FTP" access?? and the "Services" tab with 
> Fonts and Printers information??
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> IMO the sidebar should just show an easy way to access to the user home, the 
> devices and the Lan resources, but without using lateral tabs that are 
> confusing. "Home", "Devices" and "Lan" is possible all together in the left 
> column.
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>   
I'm glad you said this, I was just looking at the thing and wondering
why that stuff is there. Especially by default.
And the whole Home/Root abstraction is just weird and honestly a little
confusing. I've been using kde and konqueror for years now, and I have
never clicked any of the buttons(except for checking what they are),
other than Home and Root, which is to get to subfolder from home I need
an extra click :/

Also, just because netscape navigator from the 90's had a big icon to
the right which moved when stuff happened, doesn't mean kde from 2006
needs one:/ *clutter*

> I'm working in an HTML/Javascript preview of my idea of new Konqueror, I hope 
> to finish it as soon as possible and show it.
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> Keep on with such ideas and suggestions.
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