kmenu thoughts

[Vlad Blanton]

Welcome to the list :).

Your points are clear and I completely agree. This thread seems to have died 
down because with kde4 still in it's initial development, we don't know what 
the new plasma / kde4 will enable us to do with the menu.  Once the right 
time comes around, the new kmenu will probably be a hot topic.  Nonetheless, 
if you have cool ideas, please share!

Vlad Blanton

On Thursday 26 January 2006 2:57 pm, Sebastian Sauer wrote:
> Hi *,
>
> and here we go with my first message to kde.devel.quality :)
>
> Vladislav Blanton wrote:
> > For your specific situation, you could just turn off the *Recently
> > Installed Apps* section of the Kmenu.
>
> So, one more option to seek at in the controlcenter?!
>
> > I agree that frequent updates could become annoying if they appeared in
> > the *Recently installed..* section. The good thing is that it would only
> > record
> > new entries in the Kmenu so that wouldn't happen.  For instance, imagine
> > the user installs KBounce 1.2 for the first time and an entry is placed
> > within *Menu > Games > Bouncy Games*. Then all of a sudden there is an
> > update to KBounce that adds Network support in version 1.3. The user
> > updates it but there is already an entry in the menu for Kbounce so it is
> > not considered a new app and is not linked to in the respective *recently
> > installed...* section.
>
> That sounds for me more like the try to push the information "app xyz got
> installed" into the kmenu. Is it really needed to place now
> readonly-feedback at an area like the kmenu?
> It's even more worse. Even if you use that item the first time 1-n times to
> execute your newly installed application you still don't know where it's
> located once it moves out of the "recently installed" submenu (not to
> forget that changing positions of menuitems arn't that wise anyway - what
> reminds me of the somewhat wired show/hide menuitems I still need to seek
> for once they changed there caption).
> Also I would ask me what will happen if I do an apt-get dist-upgrade... got
> the menu then filled with the random items that got installed/updated
> last?). Well, I guess there is a reason why MS choosed to display the
> information that something got updated at the regular by the user defined
> menustructur rather then providing an additional menu with totaly another
> structur and (at the first look) which doesn't even have something to do
> with my main self-defined menuitems.
>
> > On the other hand, it might take up to much space on the menu.
>
> Yeah and it's only about some information the user may like to read or just
> ignores. So, why does it need to be in the kmenu as own submenu at all and
> why not e.g. at a "Installation History" tab in the infocenter (which
> doesn't limit the numbers of displayed recent installed apps and which is
> designed to provide such kind of "system informations").