KDE4 and KIO Fuse

Kevin Krammer kevin.krammer at gmx.at
Wed Apr 12 01:32:51 CEST 2006


On Wednesday 12 April 2006 00:16, Iñaki wrote:

> - After that she open a ODT file in the same location, so OpenOffice
> appears, modifies the doc and when press Ctrl+S... oh.... she must save it
> in /tmp !!!   "what is /tmp ???" will ask...

I am not sure, but doesn't KDE handle the downloading/uploading in this case?
The application's .desktop file says it can only handle local files so KDE 
downloads the remote file and uploads it again after the application exits?
Maybe even after it modifies it?

> Yes, OpenOffice just sucks (I hate it) but when OpenOffice has the KDE
> style installed it's difficult for the common user to recognize KDE or non
> KDE apps. In fact note that in Windows nobody needs to recognize between
> the kind of apps to use the common protocols.

OpenOffice is getting better at KDE integration at every release. I am quite 
confident that they will have KIO support at least for full transfers in 
their next release. IIRC they already have KDE's file dialogs.

And regarding Windows: I have yet to see an application that can handle remote 
files as nicely as KDE applications, even for protocols which Windows 
supports such as FTP or WebDav

> Are there easy tools for configuring mount points of remote systems in
> Linux? note that this requieres root privilegies and in most cases they
> requiere the user to know the exact name of the resource (with smb:// is so
> easy....).

I think that depends on the setup. I have user mountable NFS shares and if I 
were about to use them more frequently they would be mounted by default.

> > > Do you think Gtk apps should support the KDE kioslaves? anyway I think
> > > it will never occur.
> >
> > i think it would be nice for the users of those apps, yes. it would
> > require Gtk+ people caring about it and someone to do a lot of
> > integration work. i too think the odds of it happening are fairly low.
> > thankfully we have lots of great kde apps. and where they are week they
> > are getting stronger.
>
> Gtk+ people want integration with nothing. In fact only Nautilus supports
> Gnome-VFS. I think Gtk+ people will never think about kioslaves.

Regarding KIO that might be true, but there has been at least one attempt at 
defining and prototyping a shared VFS system, IIRC mainly worked on by Sean 
Middleditch.

My latest information on this is that he gave up after tons of non-KDE, 
non-GNOME trolls showed up and demanded Linux filesystem integration and 
POSIX semantics.

I'd hoped he'd just ignore those after the feedback from GNOME and KDE core 
developers was mostly positive

Cheers,
Kevin

-- 
Kevin Krammer <kevin.krammer at gmx.at>
Qt/KDE Developer, Debian User
Moderator: www.mrunix.de (German), www.qtcentre.org
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