[Bug 95820] Hidden panels collide at corners of screen

James Richard Tyrer tyrerj at acm.org
Tue Dec 28 23:28:37 CET 2004


Aaron J.Seigo wrote:
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> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95820 aseigo kde org changed:
> 
> What    |Removed                     |Added 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  Status|REOPENED                    |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX
> 
> 
> 
> ------- Additional Comments From aseigo kde org  2004-12-28 22:55 
> ------- do not reopen bugs that i have closed. period. finito.
> 
> feel free to add comments (which i'll get in my email) and *i* will 
> decide whether it gets reopened or not. this is not your bug report, 
> it is mine. noticed who it is *assigned* to? right.
> 
> now, as for #3, yes, you can already manually configure it to not 
> overlap as long as you don't set it to "expand to fill contents". i 
> assumed you wanted something else.

This is NOT possible with a top left panel!

> as for #2, what if you actually WANT the other panel? oh, right, now 
> the behaviour is broken again. so NO, it isn't a fix.

You move the mouse pointer.  But this is unlikely.  If I want the top
panel, I go to the top of the screen not the left side of the screen.

There is a VERY simple question here.  If two panels that intersect at a
corner are unhidden, which one should be on top.  The first one to
unhide or the second one.  You are saying that it should be the second
one without any argument to support your position.

> as for #1, what if they actually WANT to unhide the OTHER panel? now 
> they'd have to re-hide the one they accidently unhid and select that 
> other panel.

Perhaps you don't understand that I am NOT talking about using the
hide/unhide buttons, I am talking about unhidding by moving the mouse to
the edge of the screen.  This means that the two panels will only remain
unhidden while the mouse pointer is in the small area where they overlap.

You don't have to rehide anything except that you need to move the mouse
out of the area for the panel that you don't want anymore.

If they didn't overlap, there would be no problem.

> so these fixes optimize it for YOUR behaviour,

How can you be so arrogant?

> but YOU aren't the only user of kicker. as the maintainer i sort of
> have to take into consideration the over all usage of the program.

Yes, and that gets us back to the question of which one should be on 
top.  I think that we have it wrong and it should be the opposite.  I 
feel that this would be best for ALL users.

> i also need to keep in mind the code base ramifications of these 
> changes.

Yes, #1 & #3 might require considerable changes.

> all things summed up, the answer is "This bug is closed as WONTFIX." 
> do NOT re-open it.

Bugzilla is not the place to post such mingent comments.

I did NOT repoen the bug, I changed it to a WishList.

If you want to discourage people from participating in the KDE project,
you are very good at it.  It that is not your intent, please reconsider
your arrogant attitude.  And, if you want to claim that this isn't
arrogant, please check the definition:

> Main Entry: ar·ro·gance Pronunciation: 'ar-&-g&n(t)s Function: noun :
>  a feeling or an impression of superiority manifested in an 
> overbearing manner or presumptuous claims

Please be sure that you understand this.  It is your 'presumptuous
claims' about my suggestions that makes your attitude 'arrogance'.  If
you want to have a rational argument about my ideas, that is fine --
engineers to this all the time.  But, you have dismissed what I said
without even taking the time to understand it.

It appears to me that you made your decision to close the bug first and
then tried to come up with reasons second.  This is (if true) not good
critical thinking -- but it is common human behavior.

In any case, you should have contacted me by private mail rather than
posting this on BugZilla.

I also note that this *is* also MY bug since I am the reporter.  The
reporter has the right to reopen a bug.

So, I presume that if I reassign the WISHLIST item to myself that I will
be within my right to reopen it.  Why didn't you reassign it to me
rather than closing it??

-- 
JRT







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