FW: Correction: Re: lycoris desktop/lx and hp printers
Till Kamppeter
kde-print@mail.kde.org
Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:33:56 +0100
With KUPS you probably mean the KDE Printing Manager
(http://printing.kde.org/). It is a bug in KDE Print that a field which
is not intended to be human-consumable is used for building the GUI
presentation of the data. The field used for sorting the PPDs by
manufacturer is the "*Manufacturer" field of the PPD files. According to
Adobe's PPD specification this is the manufacturer's name how the
printyer reports it back when scanning the ports (parallel, USB) for
printers. So this name is not necssarily equal for all printers of one
manufacturer, especially not for HP, but also not for Kyocera ("Kyocera"
and "Kyocera-Mita"). A possibility is to take a human-consumable item,
as the "*NickName" and take the first work of it as the manufacturer's
name, but this is also not 100% reliable. So one will probably need a
table of manufacturer names containing all known variants of them.
I am CCing this to the KDE Print mailing list to report this problem to
the developers of KDE print.
Till
Raj Singh wrote:
>
> Till,
> I have fixed my scripts so that all the HP, Hewlet-Packard and
> HEWLETT-PACARD ppds are all physically in the same directory, without
> having to patch the foomatic database as i had suggested before.
>
> However, I am still having issues that in Kups I still have 3
> Manufacturers in the left hand column. The best I can tell is that this
> information is coming from the PPD's and not anywhere else as all PPD's
> are in the same directory.
>
> Do you have any ideas on how I can combine these items in KUPS so they
> match the arangement on the physical hard drive.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Raj
>
> p.s. I have encosed a copy of my latest srpm for these ppd's for your
> review. Please let me know how I can have these 3 manufacturer's
> appear as 1 in kups if you know how.
>
>
>
>
> SUFFIELD,DAVID (HP-Vancouver,ex1) wrote:
>
>> Hi Till,
>> First of all, thank-you for the hpijs 1.3.1 update at linuxprinting.org.
>> Good work :)
>>
>> Here is some foomatic feedback from Raj at Lycoris. Seems they had a
>> problem
>> getting the foomatic HP directory setup. They ended up with multiple
>> directories for HP. Any thoughts or comments?
>>
>> -dave
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Raj Singh [mailto:raj@lycoris.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 1:01 AM
>> To: Raj Singh
>> Cc: SUFFIELD,DAVID (HP-Vancouver,ex1); 'Joseph Cheek'; MEISCH,CORY
>> (HP-Vancouver,ex1); HEMSTREET,CHARLES (HP-Vancouver,ex1); WELCH,DONALD J
>> (HP-Vancouver,ex1); PASCHAL,DAVID (HP-Roseville,ex1); BOYER,DEAN
>> (HP-Vancouver,ex1)
>> Subject: Correction: Re: lycoris desktop/lx and hp printers
>>
>>
>> Correction.
>>
>> The below perl commands should read
>>
>> # combine Hewlett-Packard and HEWLETT-Packard drivers into one directory
>> perl -i -wpe 's/\<manufacturer\>Hewlett\-Packard/\<manufacturer\>HP/g'
>> foomatic-2.0-20030219/db/source/printer/*
>> perl -i -wpe 's/\<manufacturer\>HEWLETT\-PACKARD/\<manufacturer\>HP/g'
>> foomatic-2.0-20030219/db/source/printer/*
>>
>> The additional / is required for processing.
>> Raj
>>
>> Raj Singh wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>>
>>> I used the below perl commands to compile the HP and Hewlett-Packard
>>> and HEWLETT-PACKARD items for manufactuers in the foomatic db to be
>>> all HP. You may consider feeding this back to the folks at
>>> linuxprinting.org so that they update their database accordingly, all
>>> all others using the foomatic database will benefit.
>>>
>>>
>>> # combine Hewlett-Packard and HEWLETT-Packard drivers into one
directory
>>> perl -i -wpe
>>> 's/\<manufacturer\>Hewlett\-Packard/\<manufacturer\>HP/g'
>>> foomatic-2.0-20030219/db/source/printer*
>>> perl -i -wpe
>>> 's/\<manufacturer\>HEWLETT\-PACKARD/\<manufacturer\>HP/g'
>>> foomatic-2.0-20030219/db/source/printer*
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Raj
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> SUFFIELD,DAVID (HP-Vancouver,ex1) wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> The install of cd1_en_binary.iso on a Walmart Lycoris box went ok. I
>>>> was
>>>> able to install and print on a Deskjet 990 ok after installing the
>>>> Lycoris
>>>> Beta. The ESP Ghostscript 7.05 and HPIJS 1.3 were installed
>>>> correctly, but
>>>> there are some foomatic installation issues, here are my observations.
>>>>
>>>> 1. There should only be one foomatic HP directory (ie:
>>>> /usr/share/cups/model/foomatic/HP).
>>>> /usr/share/cups/model/foomatic/Hewlett-Packard and
>>>> /usr/share/cups/model/foomatic/HEWLETT-PACKARD should be removed. This
>>>> presents more than one HP directory in Kups.
>>>> I noticed these directories were not redundant and specific HP model
>>>> support
>>>> depended upon which directory was selected. Is there a question of
what
>>>> version of foomatic should be used with hpijs 1.3?
>>>>
>>>> 2. Get rid of all the hpijs-rss ppd files. Hpijs-rss driver support
>>>> is no
>>>> longer necessary since hpijs 1.3 has been released. Kups presented
>>>> two
>>>> choices - hpijs and hpijs-rss, this will confuse users.
>>>>
>>>> 3. This is not a foomatic issue, but it was frustrating. There was no
>>>> friendly way to restart cupsd in order to recognize a usb printer
>>>> plugged in
>>>> after cupsd was started. I could not get the Kups "Restart CUPS"
>>>> command to
>>>> work, even after running Kups from su root.
>>>>
>>>> I hope this quick info helps, let me know if you have any questions.
>>>> I will
>>>> be glad to look at any Beta updates. I think it is important to make
>>>> the
>>>> user experience as pleasant as possible.
>>>> Note, hpijs 1.3.1 is also out now at hpinkjet.sourceforge.net and
>>>> Till at
>>>> linuxprinting.org has already updated the foomatic database for
>>>> hpijs 1.3.1.
>>>>
>>>> -dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Joseph Cheek [mailto:joseph@lycoris.com]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 3:19 PM
>>>>> To: SUFFIELD,DAVID (HP-Vancouver,ex1)
>>>>> Cc: MEISCH,CORY (HP-Vancouver,ex1); HEMSTREET,CHARLES
>>>>> (HP-Vancouver,ex1); WELCH,DONALD J (HP-Vancouver,ex1); PASCHAL,DAVID
>>>>> (HP-Roseville,ex1); BOYER,DEAN (HP-Vancouver,ex1); raj@lycoris.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: lycoris desktop/lx and hp printers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> that's it! please let us know what we've done wrong 8-). we are
>>>>> aware of an issue where doing a clean install does not properly set
>>>>> up printers - our installer driver list is not currently synced
>>>>> with the foomatic driver list. for proper testing, please don't
>>>>> install a printer during the lizard installer, use the gui tools
>>>>> after install completes.
>>>>>
>>>>> raj singh is our lead dev for printing - i'll cc him too.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> joe
>>>>>
>>>>> SUFFIELD,DAVID (HP-Vancouver,ex1) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Got it :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> md5sum: f651b81b0767b91ac671219f0ef6c044 cd1_en_binary.iso
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have a Walmart/Microtel box for testing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We will be glad to help with testing and scanning.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>