[Kde-print-devel] [Bug 180051] [KDE4] Need a way to have default printer settings

reescf at gmail.com reescf at gmail.com
Fri Feb 10 01:02:31 UTC 2012


https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=180051





--- Comment #66 from  <reescf gmail com>  2012-02-10 01:02:28 ---
Thanks for pointing to the patch referenced above.

I assume that would require compiling QT from sources and configuring things to
use the hacked library as explained around comment 17?

I don't, frankly, think I am up to managing that. I've tried compiling QT in
the past and it has always ended in failure. I did once manage to compile
something but as I remember it didn't actually work. Plus it is an awful lot of
work and I don't really have time to do that for every update, something I'd
assume would be needed.

In any case, if I understand the patch's function correctly, it won't really
help me much. It won't pick up the CUPS paper size so without intervention, KDE
will still send everything formatted for letter paper rather than A4. It also
won't pick up the quality settings I need set for some of the printers I use in
order to get output which is dense enough to photocopy legibly. QT's print
dialog doesn't even give display most of these options because it is
insensitive to the actual capabilities of the printer as provided in the ppd.
Non-saving of settings is only part of the problem - there are also the
settings which I cannot set through the dialog but which should be available
from CUPS. (QT's dialog shows them in Properties but I'm not sure what the
point of that bit of the dialog is. Doesn't seem to have a function.)

In any case, telling end-users that the fix for a problem involves patching QT
source and building the whole thing from scratch is not a solution.

The available patch is also out of date. It is for 4.6.2 and the version
installed from my distro is 4.8.0.

Is there any reason *not* to consider e.g. the openprinting dialog? That looks
to be very thoroughly thought through and researched. I know that is in its
infancy but even if it is a bit buggy, it may well be better than the current
dialog. Wouldn't this offer a solution which would fit in well to the KDE
interface (since there's a QT version) and avoid relying on the development by
QT (which clearly won't happen any time soon), while not requiring KDE
developers to build a separate dialog for printing themselves? Since that will
also likely be adopted by other DEs, it would also have obvious advantages in
terms of adhering to common standards etc., and early adoption would make it
more likely that the specific needs of the KDE ecosystem will be fully
reflected in the development.

I don't know much of anything about development but there seem to be compelling
reasons to consider an alternative to the QT default dialog and a promising
alternative already in the works.

But that solution seems not to have been addressed...

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