Fwd: Hayes

Neil Stevens kde-policies@mail.kde.org
Tue, 28 Jan 2003 19:48:16 -0800


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Oh, Charles, do make up your mind, so we can end this.  Am I free to=20
implement things any way I want, or not?

On Tuesday January 28, 2003 07:39, Charles Samuels wrote:
> That I *named* it addFile?  A rose by any ....
> Or that I require properties?  YOU'RE FREE TO IMPLEMENT THAT ANY WAY AS
> LONG AS YOU DO.
> Or maybe because I called it Playlist instead of PlayList?

On one hand you say I can implement addFile any way I wish...

> Neil claims that that the playlist api is designed specifically for SPL,
> yet he doesn't implement properties because he doesn't.  And he thinks
> they should be removed from the API!  That's because he (and you,
> Carsten) don't even listen to shoutcast, that would make Noatun /less/
> versatile and /more/ suited specifically to Hayes.  What use is the
> Properties feature if the authors of plugins cannot expect for them to
> work, as they are documented to be?

=2E. but on on the other you assert that Hayes must implement setProperty i=
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one precise way.

> Read this as many times as it takes Neil, Carsten.  I'm fed up with
> constantly having to repeat the same things to you.  It's no coincidence
> that the only people who think that Hayes belongs in CVS despite these
> flaws are the ones who use Hayes.  Those are the people who don't ever
> use shoutcast, or never use the Flood plugin, or the Smoove plugin, or
> any of the plugins that show exactly how versatile this api is.

Except that I specifically added support for Flood into Hayes.  Flood only=
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needed read-only data, so that was fine.  Next excuse?

Or don't bother with an excuse.  Just assert your will, and declare that as=
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maintainer you can rudely refuse what ever you want, with no rationale or=20
apologies.  It doesn't seem that many people would really object to that. =
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I don't think I would.  Even the 3.2 RC seems to agree, and he hates your=20
app.

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Neil Stevens - neil@qualityassistant.com
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