Fwd: Hayes

[Neil Stevens]

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On Tuesday January 28, 2003 03:16, Stephan Kulow wrote:
> Good that I continued reading before writing my own oppinion on it - as
> Marc already wrote it. If Hayes is distributed with KDE (in the one or
> the other form) people will connect it with noatun, so if it makes
> noatun unstable or less functional (please don't overread the word "if"
> here), then the noatun maintainer should have a final say about it
> beeing shipped. Of course this should be on a technical level and as far
> as I understood, Charles provided these technical reasons.

He didn't say it crashed, so that's half the if.

And for the other half, I can show you why Hayes provides more=20
functionality, not less.  The ways include, but are not limited to:

1. Hayes uses KFileMetaInfo instead of its own system of gathering=20
information.  If Charles finds KFMI to be lacking, he should fix it in=20
kdelibs where all of KDE, including Hayes, will benefit.  Saying that KDE=20
is inadequate shouldn't be a reason to exclude KDE code from release.

2. Charles' SPL playlist requires you to manually add or remove files from=
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the playlist every time you download, delete, rename, or reorganize your=20
collection.  Hayes does not.

3. Hayes integrates with Konqueror (both allowing easy opening of a=20
Konqueror window of a paricular music directory, and allowing easy=20
playback in Hayes via a Konqueror service menu).  SPL does not.  Charles=20
suggests that there should be a way to disable the service menu when Hayes=
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isn't on, and I agree, but that can only be fixed in Konqueror, not Hayes.

4. Hayes is very fast with large collections of music.  Try using SPL with=
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a collection of tens of thousands of files.  At least one of my regular=20
Hayes testers has a collection that big.

5. Hayes has a better DCOP interface.  Charles hinted at this, that he =20
can't be added to the other Noatun playlists without breaking binary=20
compatibility.

6. Hayes is an optional playlist, not selected by default.  Only a user who=
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actively seeks out the configuration, ignores the playlist warning, and=20
chooses Hayes will have the SPL replaced by Hayes.

But despite all this, if the policy is going to say that a maintainer's=20
word is final on his own app, so be it.  But I would expect this policy to=
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be consistently applied, and not ignored when the maintainer is, say, me=20
disagreeing over  icons.
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Neil Stevens - neil@qualityassistant.com
"Distinctions by race are so evil, so arbitrary and insidious that a
state bound to defend the equal protection of the laws must not allow
them in any public sphere." -- Thurgood Marshall
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